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Tema: Liga de la Justicia (Justice League, 2017, Zack Snyder)

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    Entrevista a Danny Elfman

    -You’ve just been in London recording the score for Justice League. It’s been 28 years since you scored Batman. What was it like going back into the DC universe?

    It was great. It was like I never left because I’m using the same thematic material that I used back then. It never actually went away [Laughs.] It just was great fun.

    There are a few little fan moments. I instated a moment of the Wonder Woman theme that Hans Zimmer did for Batman Vs. Superman, but I also had two minutes where I had the pleasure of saying, “Let’s do John Williams’ Superman.” and that for me was heaven, because now I have a melody to twist, and I’m using it in an actually very dark way, in a dark moment. It’s the kind of thing that some fans will notice. Some won’t. It’s a moment where we’re really not sure whose side he’s on.

    The people at DC are starting to understand we’ve got these iconic bits from our past and that’s part of us, that’s part of our heritage -- we shouldn’t run away from that. Contemporary thinking is, every time they reboot something, you have to start completely from scratch -- which, of course, audiences will tell us again and again, is bullshit. Because the single-most surviving and loved theme in the world is Star Wars, which they had the good sense to not dump for the reboots. And every time it comes back, the audience goes crazy.
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    Qué curiosidad por escuchar ese guiño al tema de John Williams de Superman
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    I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)

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    Sabroso
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    Entrevista a Danny Elfman
    You’ve just been in London recording the score for Justice League. It’s been 28 years since you scored Batman. What was it like going back into the DC universe?

    It was great. It was like I never left because I’m using the same thematic material that I used back then. It never actually went away [Laughs.] It just was great fun.

    There are a few little fan moments. I instated a moment of the Wonder Woman theme that Hans Zimmer did for Batman Vs. Superman, but I also had two minutes where I had the pleasure of saying, “Let’s do John Williams’ Superman.” and that for me was heaven, because now I have a melody to twist, and I’m using it in an actually very dark way, in a dark moment. It’s the kind of thing that some fans will notice. Some won’t. It’s a moment where we’re really not sure whose side he’s on.

    The people at DC are starting to understand we’ve got these iconic bits from our past and that’s part of us, that’s part of our heritage -- we shouldn’t run away from that. Contemporary thinking is, every time they reboot something, you have to start completely from scratch -- which, of course, audiences will tell us again and again, is bullshit. Because the single-most surviving and loved theme in the world is Star Wars, which they had the good sense to not dump for the reboots. And every time it comes back, the audience goes crazy



    Negrita: What? ¿Significa eso que utiliza algo del material que compuso para los Batman de Burton o lo he entendido mal?. Porque cómo sea que si...
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    To orchestrate is like a thumbprint. People have a style. I don’t understand it, having someone orchestrate for you. It would be like someone putting color to your paintings.
    The trouble is, good composers, when they do a film, for some reason or other, they’re brainwashed, and they write rubbish. They’re afraid to write. The only one I know who doesn’t is Copland. Korngold also. But generally they say, “This is the Hollywood style, let’s write for it.” Of course that’s all wrong, what they do.

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    Concept Art


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    Negrita: What? ¿Significa eso que utiliza algo del material que compuso para los Batman de Burton o lo he entendido mal?. Porque cómo sea que si...
    También me ha extrañado esa frase. Un guiño vale, pero usar el mismo tema creo que sería un gran error.
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    "Because sometimes truth isn't good enough".

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    Completo la entrevista a Danny Elfman con más preguntas. Sobre si ha compuesto temas para Flash y Aquaman, sobre grabar en Abbey Road y sobre trabajar con Joss Whedon:

    Did you write new themes for such characters as Flash and Aquaman?

    I created very simple motifs. There are so many themes, you can’t just do a big theme for everything. So i created a motif for Flash, for Aquaman and Cyborg -- but they’re very simple things, and [DC] understood. I said, "These things may never be used again, but I’m giving you all the components, should you wish to have things to build on." So they either will or they won’t, but that’s how I approach a project like this. You have to take the attitude that this is the beginning of a mythology and it all matters, it all comes to fruition, and with any luck they will.
    I loved the people I worked with, they were wonderful. The DC guys were great. I kept talking about the DNA of John Williams in this other theme -- using the DNA of Batman in these other variations, which were not the Batman theme -- but it all derives from that... Musical themes are like genes, you carry the DNA along and it creates these subtle connections which are perceived on an unconscious level. It’s funny because I’m terrible at puzzles, but I love musical puzzles. It’s a different part of my brain.

    Did you record at Abbey Road?

    Abbey Road and Air. On my god, we had nine days of 12-hour recording sessions using both studios. It was crazy. It’s funny, I’ve only worked with [director] Joss [Whedon] twice, but they’re both been insane situations. I was joking with him at the end, "It would be great to do something normal where we actually have a regular schedule instead of these hyper-reduced schedules." On the other hand, i like challenges and I love Joss, so it was all good.

    Why do you love working with him?

    It was the same as when I worked with him on Ultron. He appreciates melodies and pieces. He’s like, “Oh, you’ve given it identity here!” There was a moment where the Batmobile shoots out of a thing and he goes, “Go batshit crazy here! Batman the shit out of it!” When I’m using the Batman theme, I’m using the melodic sense of it, I’m wasn’t doing full-on Batman, and there’s a moment when he says, “No, right here, Full on!”

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    Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
    for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
    does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
    gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
    counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.

    Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)

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    Negrita: What? ¿Significa eso que utiliza algo del material que compuso para los Batman de Burton o lo he entendido mal?. Porque cómo sea que si...
    Yo creo que no, cuando dice "the same thematic material", creo que se refiere a los mismos códigos musicales, ya que es el mismo material temático (súper héroes). No tendría sentido que de repente el tema del Batman de Affleck fuera el de Batman 89. Pero algún guiño puede haber, como con Superman.
    I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)

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    Pues yo entiendo que sí, que va a a hacer guiños a su tema de Batman.

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    Pues yo entiendo que sí, que va a a hacer guiños a su tema de Batman.
    Sí, guiño sí. Yo también lo he dicho Pero no que vaya a usar los mismos temas como motivos principales.

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    No tendría sentido que de repente el tema del Batman de Affleck fuera el de Batman 89. Pero algún guiño puede haber, como con Superman.
    Branagh/Doyle y Akákievich han agradecido esto.
    I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)

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    Cubierta de Empire con dibujo de Jason Fabok:

    https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/s...20188666810369
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    Pongo esto aquí:

    DC Rethinks Its Universe

    Destaco la parte en la que citan a Justice League:

    However, there’s still a spandex-clad elephant in the room: this November’s Justice League. Its optics haven’t been great. Right after BvS’s backlash hit, the fact that Snyder would also be in charge of Justice League cast a pall over the latter effort among the movie commentariat. There were internal discussions about how to revamp parts of the movie. Johns and Berg mulled the idea of having someone other than Snyder write new scenes for the film. By coincidence, the writer-director of Marvel’s The Avengers, Joss Whedon, met with Johns and Berg to discuss creating a movie with them. The pair were game for that (they eventually chose one about Batman ally Batgirl), but later realized they could accomplish another goal: “Everyone was excited about Joss being a part of DC, and we thought he’d be great to write the [Justice League] scenes, the additional-photography scenes that we wanted to get,” Johns recalls.

    That choice took on added import when tragedy hit Justice League soon afterward: Snyder’s daughter died by suicide in March of this year. The director remained attached to the film for a few months, but on May 22, he announced he would be departing to grieve, leaving the remainder of the film to Whedon. Since then, rumors about the picture have come out in dribs and drabs: Whedon has allegedly rewritten a third of the film, including the ending; the Justice League sequel that was announced in 2014 was very notably not mentioned at a Comic-Con presentation, compounding speculation that it’s not going to happen; there are reports of expensive, difficult-to-coordinate, last-minute reshoots; and so on. DC and Warner don’t comment on these rumors, but it hasn’t added up to a great image for the mega-tentpole.
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    Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
    for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
    does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
    gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
    counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.

    Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)

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    Cubierta de Empire con dibujo de Jason Fabok:

    https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/s...20188666810369
    Que tiene un estilo muy Jim Lee


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    Última edición por xpiogus; 29/09/2017 a las 18:07
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    Geoff Johns y Diane Nelson (presidenta de DC Entertainment) han hecho unas interesantes declaraciones, en las que se reafirman en el camino del Universo DC algo distinto al MCU: DC no pretende enfatizar la conexión entre personajes constantemente, en cada película. Simplemente van a procurar que nada contradiga las otras películas, pero la idea sigue siendo que las películas tengan identidad propia, y que los directores tengan una cierta libertad para imponer su sello:


    “Our intention, certainly, moving forward is using the continuity to help make sure nothing is diverging in a way that doesn’t make sense, but there’s no insistence upon an overall story line or interconnectivity in that universe,” Nelson said, drawing nods from the top brass around her.

    “The movie’s not about another movie,” Johns said about Wonder Woman. “Some of the movies do connect the characters together, like Justice League. But, like with Aquaman, our goal is not to connect Aquaman to every movie.” As Nelson put it, “Moving forward, you’ll see the DC movie universe being a universe, but one that comes from the heart of the filmmaker who’s creating them.”

    También han aclarado que no todos los rumores que surgen sobre supuestas películas que están preparando (y que hacen a algunos críticos decir que no tienen un plan claro) sean ciertos:

    “Some of the stuff is true, some of it isn’t true,” he said. “When we talk about things or we’re making deals for people to develop scripts or whatever, sometimes, things leak; sometimes, things are misreported, and it’s frustrating. Because we do wanna go out there and talk about what our strategy is, and this stuff just muddies the water. There’s a lot of internal conversations going on about, ‘How do we help kind of clean that up a bit?’”

    https://batman-news.com/2017/09/29/g...and-lots-more/
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    I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)

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    Justice League The Art of the Film
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    Justice League The Art of the Film
    toma spoiler y de los gordos.

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    Info del número de Empire Magazine tras su visita al set (durante los reshoots de Whedon).

    Lo cuelgo aquí. Algo de spoilers hay.

    SPOILERS: JUSTICE LEAGUE - 8 Major NEW Details You Need To Know From Empire Magazine

    Empire Magazine recently had the chance to visit the set of Justice League (during Joss Whedon's reshoots) and we've combed through it to bring you all the biggest new story reveals and interview excerpts!
    Zack ha agradecido esto.
    Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
    for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
    does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
    gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
    counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.

    Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)

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    Resumen:

    (repito, posibles SPOILERS)

    -Gal Gadot estuvo rodando una semana. Según el artículo, JL no es Wonder Woman 1.5

    -Se describe una escena divertida en la Batcueva. Escena que parece podría ser de las rodadas por Whedon.

    -Affleck describe el bigote de Cavill como el de un actor porno de los 70

    -Se hace hincapié en lo variado de la JL como grupo de superhéroes y en la idea de Snyder sobre ello.

    -Se habla de un tono nuevo en el universo DC, más alegre, o ligero, y que esa siempre fue la idea previa de Snyder.

    -Sin duda la mayor película (en tamaño) de DC.

    Copio/pego la parte dedicada a los reshoots, que es la mayor polémica (aunque muchos consideramos que no hay motivo):

    1. Joss Whedon's Reshoots

    There's been a lot of speculation about what sort of role Joss Whedon has played in Justice League and just how much he's changed the movie but the cast insists that he hasn't come in and totally changed things. You can find their comments in full by clicking here but what Ben Affleck says is particularly interesting. "I didn't sense that we were moving towards something that felt like The Avengers," he promises.

    "Joss is more than just an Avengers director. He's a good storyteller, full stop. In mid-stream, Joss got on and part of what interested him was the puzzle aspect of it, fitting in pieces that weren't there yet. He put the rest of the pieces in and gave it his own imprimatur." It certainly sounds like the filmmaker has made some big changes in terms of how the story plays out but it also doesn't sound like Justice League is now fully a Joss Whedon film.
    Última edición por Synch; 02/10/2017 a las 18:03
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    Bottom line is, even if you see 'em coming, you're not ready
    for the big moments.No one asks for their life to change, not really. But it
    does.So what are we, helpless? Puppets? No. The big moments are
    gonna come. You can't help that. It's what you do afterwards that
    counts. That's when you find out who you are. You'll see what I mean.

    Whistler (Buffy The Vampire Slayer - 2x21 Becoming, Part One - Joss Whedon)

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    Como me encanta esta imagen. Me recuerda a ese aspecto de los comics que no se ha visto tanto en los últimos años de Batman en pantalla, el de estar en la Batcueva con la mascara fuera, planeando estrategias o con sus pensamientos. Pero que bien le queda el traje y ese aspecto a Affleck, se ha hecho suyo al personaje (además que sigue estando como un toro).
    TeNeTe, Marty_McFly, Tripley y 4 usuarios han agradecido esto.
    De vacaciones: No del todo, seguiré entrando casi a diario leyendo comentarios y escribiendo algún apunte rápido, simplemente mi actividad será mas baja que de costumbre por un tiempo.

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    El traje ayuda para estar como un toro, como ayudaba a los anteriores batman.
    Aunque yo prefiero que ayude el traje y no el ordenador, porque que ahora usen el ordenador hasta para poner musculos como al capitan america

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    Me gusta que en las entrevistas los actores estén nombrando a Zack constantemente. Que se recuerde y quede claro quién es el alma máter de la película.
    Marty_McFly, Zack y jrvcorleone han agradecido esto.
    "Because sometimes truth isn't good enough".

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