Malena y la censura de Miramax
del IMDB foros.
en dvdbeaver hay una foto sexual de lo que cortaron,q es todo sexo.
en cineclasico no se que esta el hilo para pillarla donde ya saben.
After years of snooping around I put up the most complete and accurate guide to what's availabe out there.
The American Miramax release:
* This is a heavily cut R1 DVD 92 minutes.
* The best transfer quality and sharpest image of all the releases worldwide.
* There is another type of censoring which is that even in the few nude scenes left, the letterbox is higher than other versions that while in the other DVDs you can see her full frontal nudity, in the Miramax DVD you can see only from her waist up.
* The image is cropped (cut) from both sides and from the bottom and top.
* The correct aspect ratio 1:2.35 BUT as mentioned above the image is cut vertically and horizontally so you get less image but at the same ratio.
* In the scene where Malena is beaten in public there is a ¾ of a second cut when she was standing up after the beating and shaking, no one ever caught this cut but me.
* Has English subtitles
* Dolby sound, No DTS.
* Has a second choice poster made for conservative countries with no nudity on it.
* Can be bought from amazon.com
The French Wildside release:
* This is the new R2 (pal) release of May 2004, and it is a full length 103 minutes (the Pal is 4% faster than NTSC R1, so the 103 minutes Pal is the same as 109 minutes NTSC). Note that the French had an older DVD that was cut, it can't be found easily today, but you must check that the version you buy is the WildSide release of May 2004 as this is the new, Uucut version.
* This version has a wrong aspect ratio of 1:1.85 , this means big parts from the left and right sides of the screens are cut, this will not affect the nudity or the characters, mostly some parts of the set that have no importance.
* No English subtitles.
* Dolby Sound, No DTS.
* Although this is the Uncut version, it still has the second choice poster made for conservative countries with no nudity on it, it inherited it from the old cut French release.
* Can be bought from Amazon.fr using the same user/password as in your amazon.com account http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASI...647506-2882558
The Korean Spectrom release:
* This is a 103 minutes uncut DVD R0 (means it will run on any DVD player of any region)
* Picture quality is very poor
* Has English subtitles but subs are buggy; there are many parts that are missing subtitles for no reason.
* Has DTS sound track
* The correct aspect ratio 1:2.35
* Has the original poster featuring Monica Belluci with bare right breast.
* Can be bought from dvdasian.com (shipped from Korera http://www.dvdasian.com/cgi-bin/dvdasian/15810.html
Or from ebay.com
The Italian Medusa release:
* This is an Uncut R2 DVD release 103 minutes (the cover says 105 but this is a mistake)
* The image quality is a little better than the Korean, but still much poorer than the Miramax image. In several places there is a noise at the sides of the image.
* No English subtitles.
* Has DTS sound track
* Correct aspect ratio 1:2.35
* Has the original poster featuring Monica Belluci with bare right breast.
* Can be bought from dvd.it http://dvd.it/page/dett/froms/Y/arti...82_dvd%29.html
If the above URL changed, go to http://www.dvd.it and click "English version" at the very bottom right of the page then search for "Malena" .
The Japanese director's edition release:
Everything I mention about this version is pure speculation as this is the only version I don't own.
* An Uncut R2 version (109 minutes) that is encoded to the NTSC image dimensions, but I suspect the full frontal shots must have some kind of sencoring as in the Japanese culture showing the reproductive organs are a big NO NO, there is also another shot in the full version where Monica is dressed but she takes the boy's clothes off and his penis is visible, no way the japanese would allow this aslo!
* Still yet to get one so I can't judge the image quality.
* Correct ratio 1:2.35
* No English Subtitles
* Dolby sound, No DTS
* The poster is the original one with Monica's bare right breast BUT as a compromise they moved the word "Malena" to cover the nipple area!
* Can be bought from cdjapan.co.jp http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=DVF-41#
There are other non important DVDs from Netherlands, Spain, UK and Sweden that are all heavily cut to 91 minures and generally similar to the Miramax release except for the lack of English subtitles on releases from non Engliash speaking countries and being R2 Pal.
Let me know if you know of any other uncut releases anywhere.www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/malena.htm
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The Korean Spectrom release:
* This is a 103 minutes uncut DVD R0 (means it will run on any DVD player of any region)
* Picture quality is very poor
* Has English subtitles but subs are buggy; there are many parts that are missing subtitles for no reason.
Alguien que tenga esta edición ¿Es muy mala la imagen? ¿Es verdad que hay muchas partes sin subtítulos?
:hola
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del IMDB foros.
en dvdbeaver hay una foto sexual de lo que cortaron,q es todo sexo.
en cineclasico no se que esta el hilo para pillarla donde ya saben.
Perdona, igual soy yo, pero no entiendo absolutamente nada de lo que dices. ¿De qué estás hablando?
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
Esa imagen, por lo que pone en la página de DVDBeaver no viene en la edición de Z1 que no sé si será exactamente igual que la de aquí. En concreto dice esto acompañando a la imagen:
Cita:
What you are missing with the Region 1
Y eso de "cineclásico no se qué" supongo que será una página para descargar la versión sin cortes con un programa tipo mula.
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Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
rohmerin, no me parece apropiado poner enlaces a webs con enlaces ed2k o torrent. Eliminalo o lo haré yo.
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
Hace tiempo vi una comparación en dvdenlared :disimulo que hizo un forero comparando ambas ediciones, y por lo que recuerdo la verdad es que había bastantes escenas "censuradas" en nuestra versión, e incluso el montaje era algo diferente.
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
la muy interesante L'uome delle stelle esta editada en Z1 por MIramax, que miedo, a saber si cortaron algo o no, pero no veo si tiene subt en español o no.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...646551?ie=UTF8
para quien no lo sepa, La leyenda del pianista del oceano en su V.Italiana dura muuuuuchooooo mas que las 2 horas de la V.Inglesa, lo que hace que ver Tornatore y sus versiones integras sea harto complicado.
este otoño se estrena su nueva pelicula en Italia, La desconocida, que sera la unica pelicula italiana de todo este año que estrenen en España, che vergogna !
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me han "regalado" la v.integra con perfectos subt en castellano.
¿miramax tendra mail de quejas en EEUU?
unas capturillas hechas a boleo de dicha v.integra de cosas que me parecen que los gringos cortaron
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/176...3375512ts2.png
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5...3376237pb4.png
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3...3375183iw9.png
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
cuando pueda, veo la pelicula en su integridad, y aunque no tengo muy fresca la version de carnicero judio americano (los Wenstein) de solo 90 minutos, digo yo, que 15 minutos nuevos se notaran a huevo y podre hacer capturas para los pajilleros, perdon, seguidores.
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
Resumiendo, cual es la íntegra, la nuestra, la de z1, o alguna otra.
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
DVD integro solo en Italia, Francia, Corea y la mula.
edicion subt español solo en la "gratis".
hablan un italiano - siciliano super cerrado, vamos, que yo, que veo las italianas sin subt, aqui los necesito.
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DVD
edicion subt español solo en la "gratis".
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Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
algunas capturillas anti - navideñas de lo cortado.
no se si esta de Malena secandose el pelo al sol estaba en la v.corta o no. Me parece que aqui era distinta porque el niño se imagina que el esta debajo.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6...9300538fi8.png
el niño se la menea muuuuchas mas veces, y a lo largo de la pelicula, imaginandose a la Bellucci en color, o bien en B/N como si fueran peliculas. Muchas mas veces. El gran masturbador de Dali, pero en plan Amarcord, con toques de Honor a la siciliana, 40 años despues de que Germi lo pusiese de moda.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7...9301008fa6.png
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8...9301961ij6.png
la pajillera del cine
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/414...9311592hx4.png
Malena se lava con agua y limon a lo "atlantic city de Louis Malle"
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7...9318950sn7.png
el primer cliennte de Malena
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1...9320084be7.png
diria que hasta la brutal paliza - venganza es aun mas bestia y violenta en la copia italiana.
Re: Malena y la censura de Miramax
Sacan los de Lauren EL HOMBRE DE LAS ESTRELLAS :amor de Tornatore, que si es como el DVD de Z1 de Miramax, tambien esta cortado, sobre todo el final, que era bastante triste.
la version sin cortes de La leyenda del painista sobre el ocenano, nada; la de Malena, tampoco-
El DVD y los judios manos tijeras odian a Tornatore.