Tema: Proyector | Hitachi TX200

... Lo suficientemente exacto para cambiar uno por otro y la WAT no note nada

Iniciado por Franciscus

... Lo suficientemente exacto para cambiar uno por otro y la WAT no note nada

Di que lo llevas al servicio tecnico y cuando traigas el xt200 , si nota la diferencia, dices que se les ha caido y te han puesto una carcasa nueva. )

Saludos

No, si también hablaba por mí )
De todos modos, opino también que muy muy grande tendría que ser la mejora como para cambiar.
Pero ese aspecto casi idéntico tienta, eh??????

otra KK como el Pana

Pongo este post por si hay alguien intersado en este equipo,la fecha en la que se podra adquirir este proyector es principios de Octubre,el precio 1650 euros

otra KK como el Pana

:(( :(( :(( :(( :((

Holaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

Ya está pedido...y a la venta, hablan de 1/2 semanas y el PVP suministrado es de 1595 Euros + iva.

Ya lo tengo a la venta PERO en cuanto apalanque la primera unidad ruego a algún TX100 que pase por" taquilla"...Fran, vete preparando la visita al "medico" con el TX100 que le hacemos una radiografia y posteas tus notas en este hilo.

Saludos!!!

Producto: HITACHI PJ-TX200


1200 ansi lumens---7000:1 de contraste---1280 x 720---hd ready---nacionales---transporte e impuestos incluidos---consulta estocaje, piezas limitadas durante las primeras...

ya me he perdido :pedo

Iniciado por Vieta XXI

Ya lo tengo a la venta PERO en cuanto apalanque la primera unidad ruego a algún TX100 que pase por" taquilla"...Fran, vete preparando la visita al "medico" con el TX100 que le hacemos una radiografia y posteas tus notas en este hilo.

:afro

Pues lo podeis encontrar YA AQUI por 1643,78 IVA incluido, peroo.... recordad que los miembros del foro tienen un 5% de descuento :amor , indicándolo en el pedido claro, por lo que se queda en 1561,59 IVA incluido (más portes).

Un saludo.
Pedro J.

Iniciado por pedroj

Pues lo podeis encontrar YA AQUI por 1643,78 IVA incluido, peroo.... recordad que los miembros del foro tienen un 5% de descuento :amor , indicándolo en el pedido claro, por lo que se queda en 1561,59 IVA incluido (más portes).

Edito para además decir que el contraste (según la información que me ha pasado Hitachi) es de 7000:1, no la que pone Grubert en el inicio del post. Más información sobre este proyector


Un saludo.
Pedro J.

aquí.

Bueno, por lo que veo a cambiar de proye toca................
Je je, lo bueno es que la WAT ni se enterara, porque es igualito.....

¿Existe alguna review de este cacharro ? yo no encuentro ninguna :(

Para quién ande cerca lo puede ver en Marbella en la tienda Musicop de la calle Alonso de Bazán, 7. Teléfono: 952770732.
Te atenderá un señor mayor muy amablemente. Eso sí llama antes para ver si no lo han vendido ) . Tienen un Infocus 4805 y un Mitsubishi sxd480

Saludos y buena visita.
P.D: ya me comnetaréis impresiones

Saludos

Iniciado por Merlin

Si todo va bien iré a verlo este sábado.

Muy bien se tiene que ver para que me quede

Saludos.

Merlin, esperamos tus impresiones

Lo he ido a ver esta mañana. Tenía que venir merlin pero no ha podido asi que os quedais con mis impresiones. De hecho iba a ver si me cambiaba mi tx100 por este y he salido con un hc3000 bajo el brazo.
De todas formas mi impresión ha sido buena o muy buena. He comparado en pantallas paralelas el 100 y el 200 con la comunidad del anillo en ambas y no había color. Muchísimo más detalle en el las imagenes del fondo, más colores, más definición (aunque es la misma en teoria), más brillo, más contraste. Eran las mismas escenas en a,bos proyectores y ,coño, no había color. Desde luego he preguntado cómo estaban ajustados, si era el ajuste de origen y me han dicho que no, que era un ajuste personal con intención de que se viera lo mejor posible. Si ese era el caso la diferencia era notable. De todas formas aún noto diferencias con proyes de alta gama que había visto antes,sobretodo en negros, tridimensionalidad y sensación de viveza.


No soy un gurú de esto asi que cogeros mis impresiones con papel de fumar. Es la opinión de un aficionado sin ni puta idea de calibrar un proyector desde sus tripas. De esos que se fían más de la opinión de uno de los chamanes de aquí que de la mía propia viéndolo, exaerando un poco,claro.
saludos.

Iniciado por seoman

Lo he ido a ver esta mañana. Tenía que venir merlin pero no ha podido asi que os quedais con mis impresiones. De hecho iba a ver si me cambiaba mi tx100 por este y he salido con un hc3000 bajo el brazo.

jejeje te has olvidado de explicar esto )

cierto es. E imprescindible.
Me he acabado quedando el HC3000 por prestaciones supuestas, que no he comprobado, y por precio, que no puedo dar porque no es el de pvp y es fruto de una relación personal con los propietarios con lo que se sale de las reglas del mercado.
Pero el hitachi 200 mme ha causado buena impresión y a lo mejor habría caido.

Bueno aqui he encontrado una review del TX 200 , lo comparan con los demas D5 segun parece, no lo he leido , asi mañana lo comentamos si es que pone algo interesante ;)


edit: hay que traducirla en trozos por que no da el traductor del Google si metemos la URL

- Normal (gamma = standard, color temperature =7,500K, lens iris opening =7) white is set by pure white, also power of full color of red, blue and green is tuned in natural balance. There is no emphasis where also gradation expression is conspicuous, to the discernment section is collected gently from the dark space, portrays everything without making the shadow in image be buried. It meaning that lens iris opening is large relatively, you feel the black floating from the jet-black part in image, but in that case opening of the lens iris to 4 - 5 should have been lowered. Because is widely used, if is perplexed this mode should have been selected temporarily probably.




(gamma = ファンタジー, color temperature =6,500K, lens iris opening =5) The mode which floats the appearance where white had somewhat redness due to the fact that color temperature goes down to the 6,500K, such as cinema picture pitch surely. You can hold down peak brightness, can raise dark space gradation somewhat, the dark shadow becomes easy to be visible. The sharpness of amount and the pure white where color temperature goes down it is inferior " normally ", but the warmth increases in beige of the person. You can say the hammer り so it is mode well in the movie of person subject. Lens iris opening 5 calls is the setting of the contraction tend, but equal to the amount where peak brightness has fallen with dark image the black floating is easy to be attached to the eye a little.



- The cinema reality (the gamma = reality, color temperature =6,500K, lens iris opening =5) white balance it is not different from " the シネマファンタジー ", but dark space gradation it sinks and makes be packed, it becomes the gradation expression which shakes somewhat power in the medium bright color. As an image the contrast impression increases the eye which was seen, the 3-D becomes remarkable, but however dark space gradation expression quickly and it becomes tend to die. Although there is with " a cinema " in mode name, it is thought it is unsuitable to the movie from the fact that dark space gradation dies. With animation the outline tightening tightly, in order to be visible, it seems that the seeing prospering becomes good.




- The music (the gamma = reality, color temperature =7,500K, lens iris opening =7) the contrast concern edition " of normal ", or mode of the feeling such as high brightness edition of the " cinema reality ". White balance, tendency of coloration is " normal ", but as for gradation characteristic and the contrast impression the feel, " cinema reality " transferring. If it is high brightness use, because there is a later mentioned " sport ", the fact using cannot be discovered.




- By the fact that sport (gamma = high contrast, color temperature =9,300K, lens iris opening =10) boost it does above the medium bright color, the most dark space sinks and makes be packed, absolute brightness and the mode which actualizes high contrast characteristic. White has becoming green with the relationship to which color temperature rises, the most discernment section becomes saturation feeling. The mode which is utilized in order to show image even in the room which is suitable to " the dynamic " mode of the place as it is called in substance and the other type, is bright. If the PJ-TX200J is utilized is television under fluorescent light illuminating, it is this mode.




Basic efficiency was high, because of that also the PJ-TX100J whose breath is long, full keeping, became model change. While strengthening the lens iris for the stray light decrease which wins confidence with the PJ-TX100J, furthermore competition preceding, it mounts even to iris mechanism of the dynamic control type which it is mounted. With this " dual iris mechanism ", the " catalog specifications " it is the case that it actualizes contrast ratio 7,000:1 where is, but as for the active iris " automatic 2 " setting which achieves this with actual image projection it was the mode which cannot be used excessively.

It is to touch at also the time of the previous TH-AE900, but you think we would like to know the ネイティヴ * contrast efficiency which is expressed inside 1 frame which does not control dynamically regarding contrast efficiency.

It is certainly funny to dispute contrast numerical competition between the manufacturer, but in order to be able to do the product choosing which is easy to be divided into the user, in the future, each manufacturer thinks it is necessary also for ネイティヴ * contrast value to state simultaneously in specifications inscription.

Actually, as for the dual iris mechanism of the PJ-TX200J to be the function which can be used rather, as for the black floating with respect to principle of the transmitted type liquid crystal, it is the problem which is not avoided it can decrease rather, but with the lens iris.

Furthermore if the active iris is made " automatic 1 " setting simultaneously, while almost maintaining the ratio of bright color anti- black uniformly, because it is seen, if you are not conscious, the black floating does not become matter of concern. We adopt the idea which 2 these iris mechanisms is loaded, become trend of projection type of the transmitted type liquid crystal projector and you rival there is foreboding the LP-Z4 as " twin iris mechanism ".


Picture pitch mode =
The lens iris =10 (it squeezes and opening),

the picture pitch mode =

whose active iris = off / the black floating is extreme. The lens iris =5 (default), active iris = off / the black floating decreases. If it is the transmitted type liquid crystal projector, with this the practical level

picture pitch mode =

The lens iris =5 (default), the active iris =1/ the black floating is decreased rather. Also consistency of dark space gradation is satisfactory

Picture pitch mode = .

The lens iris =5 (default), the active iris =2/ the black floating furthermore is decreased, but

the picture pitch mode =

where the shadow becomes sweet. The lens iris =0 (smallest to squeeze), the active iris =2/ black because this actualizes contrast 7,000:1. Black is deep-black, but also dark space gradation dies the DVD video

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Picture quality check - class highest 1,200ANSI lumen television application possibly as for nominal maximum brightness 1,200ANSI lumen. It is brightness of top class, as this price range, but to tell the truth from tip generation PJ-TX100J you learned this brightness efficiency.

PJ-TX200J, TH-AE900 similar, generation new Epson make D5 liquid crystal panel use do be be, but 10% pixel 開口 numerical aperture improvement carry out this new liquid crystal panel adoption to accompany brightness efficiency improvement be (TH-AE900 as for D5 panel adoption upon attendant 100ANSI lumen brightness improvement).

Furthermore, maximum brightness of the 1,200ANSI lumen opens the lens iris maximally, when color temperature mode making " high bright ", has reached the value which is actualized. Actually, when you use with this largest brightness mode, if at the extent where the inside of the room in a flash becomes bright, it is variety program and sport relay even under fluorescent light illuminating, it can see normally. " While to do the meal under illuminating, even the television application that you see ", there is a possible brightness potential in the PJ-TX200J.

By the way, when squeezing two iris mechanisms of the lens iris and the active iris to the maximum, brightness goes down to the 400ANSI lumen. The numerical value which as for largest contrast efficiency you call nominal 7,000:1, appears extremely largely is put out, but this makes the lens iris the largest contraction, controls the active iris maximally to make " automatic 2 ", when setting color temperature mode " highly bright ", value. When you mention 7,000:1, even whether the even DLP projector and the LCOS projector 遙 it is the value which is surpassed, but because this is contrast with the black at the time of the 400ANSI lumen which two iris mechanisms the maximum is squeezed and white at the time of the 1,200ANSI lumen which opens the dual iris together, it is not the case that it can do 7,000:1 contrast expressions in 1 frame.

The ネイティヴコントラスト of the PJ-TX200J is thought it has reached the value which corresponds to 750:1 where it is D5 panel itself nominal contrast efficiency. Also with respect to of actually bodily sensation was about that. Furthermore the PJ-TX200J first dynamic iris control mechanism (the active iris) becomes the model which is installed as the Hitachi foam/home theater machine. One generation, the timing which starts this function is the case that it is late from other companies, but as expected how the capability? Actually you tried verifying, whether with some kind of effect appears " off " and " automatic 3 gradual setting of 1 " and " automatic 2 " thoroughly, but as for feeling it is usable, off " " " automatic 1 " only. As for " automatic 2 " in order to change the contraction drastically according to the luminance level of image, change of the light and darkness is very extreme. As for being extreme when change of the light and darkness of the scene is large as anyhow, this mechanical contraction control is late to the change of the scene extremely. For example, when from the scene of the extremely dark cave, it changes to the scene where the outside which advances completely difference simultaneously is bright, about 0.5 seconds being required, becoming at last proper brightness, the condition that the bright scene is drawn. Looking at image in this operation, you feel strange feeling. Already unless iris control is accelerated a little, as for the active iris of " automatic 2 " the mode which is specifications declared because of 7,000:1 catalogs, with it does not have the impression which is said you do not obtain. Control width somewhat becomes loose, as for " automatic 1 ", as operational speed somehow been in time, does not have the unnaturalness like " automatic 2 ", can use properly. It is the black floating which becomes matter of concern, but as for the PJ-TX200J black is raised to the brightness to maximum brightness being high partly due. Black and the darkness of the room, because black as a projection image on the screen there is brightness differential, when the black territory is many in image, originally the gray which shines sluggishly from the place of expectation of black is felt. But, if the lens iris is dropped to 5 and the active iris is set to automatic 1, this stops becoming the voluminosity air. Of course there is no brightness of the 1,200ANSI lumen as absolute brightness.

Gradation expression is collected balance very well, (the automatic iris up to =1, below same). After standing on the fact that it is the aforementioned black floating, pure tuning has done, the nature and linear is possible the fact that gradation expression is felt to the image which comes out. Utilizing dual iris mechanism, when making the black floating decrease, good quality of this gradation characteristic balance is maintained.

As for tendency of coloration with natural, excessive primary color emphasis you do not feel. There is a moderate sharpness even in the shining of pure color type. We want just a little depth already in red, but if you think of that the illuminant is the extra high tension mercury based lamp you think it is persevered. There is no yellow green impression even in coloration of beige, is fresh with the vitality can be felt extent well. Also color depth was deep, also the gradation of mixed color had been decided gently. It photographs near the center of the PC picture of HDMI connection. Benefit of the large aperture lens or focusing efficiency and chromatic aberration in the picture center it is little, it is worthy of to special mention

As for panel resolution with the 1,280×720 dot, as for pixel form the feeling elliptic like the right rising. Because there is no pixel lattice decrease function like the TH-AE900, somewhat, there are also times when the lattice impression is felt in expression of the slanted line with the image which the color edge like animation is clear but with photograph taken on the spot image it is not the extent which becomes matter of concern. Near the center of the image where the gaze gets together chromatic aberration is well held down very, also focusing is decided clearly, is drawn beautifully the pixel one 1 Tsuga without becoming blurred. But, if it becomes image outer circle, the extent which becomes (as for focusing there is a tendency where) chromatic aberration of those which are agreeable comes out strongly, with outermost lap approximately 1 dot, green it seems that on the right red slips on the left. Almost it does not become matter of concern which is photograph taken on the spot image, but when projecting information in printing with PC image, perhaps it becomes matter of concern.

Aqui un visionado junto con el Mitsu 3000 decir que estos dos foristas lo ponen a la misma altura :!

https://www.mundodvd.com/foro/viewto...0006&start=210

a ver si alguien comenta algo mas de este proyector que parece uq enadie lo tiene y yo creo que lo voy a pedir mañana a Cudeiro XD estaba entre el pana900 el z4 y este pero creo que me voy a decantar finalmente por el hitachi que me dicen?

Hombre.... fijate por ejemplo en estas notas - la quinte columna - ...