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Tema: Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

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    maestro Avatar de Conrado77
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    Predeterminado Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

    Hoy me ha llegado el UHD de USA que compré en WOW HD. Si alguien tiene alguna pregunta respecto a esta edición, que pregunte.

    Dejo el BDInfo del UHD de USA:

    Código:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Title:     Daybreakers - Ultra HD Blu-ray™
    Disc Label:     DAYBREAKERS
    Disc Size:      90,179,796,254 bytes
    Protection:     AACS2
    Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
    BDInfo:         0.7.5.5
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00800.MPLS
    Length:                 1:37:47.903 (h:m:s.ms)
    Size:                   63,007,457,280 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          85.90 Mbps
    
    (*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-H HEVC Video       67540 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
    * MPEG-H HEVC Video     8093 kbps           1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         5196 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  4556 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -24dB)
    Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps / DN -31dB
    
    SUBTITLES:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Presentation Graphics           English         19.876 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           English         22.255 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20.882 kbps                     
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00278.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:37:47.903     63,007,457,280  85,901          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
    Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
    ------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
    1               0:00:00.000     0:04:38.820     59,650 kbps     103,404 kbps    00:03:08.563    85,690 kbps     00:04:15.004    82,158 kbps     00:04:08.790    0 bytes         1,379,147 bytes 00:01:24.125    
    2               0:04:38.820     0:03:44.557     69,397 kbps     107,123 kbps    00:06:35.353    83,525 kbps     00:06:23.341    80,730 kbps     00:06:20.963    0 bytes         1,107,971 bytes 00:08:02.398    
    3               0:08:23.377     0:10:09.400     69,749 kbps     104,450 kbps    00:12:39.717    84,474 kbps     00:12:37.840    82,810 kbps     00:12:33.419    0 bytes         1,380,523 bytes 00:12:52.563    
    4               0:18:32.778     0:05:33.374     68,922 kbps     93,168 kbps     00:19:44.725    83,463 kbps     00:22:03.989    77,406 kbps     00:22:02.321    0 bytes         1,007,835 bytes 00:20:09.541    
    5               0:24:06.153     0:09:52.842     70,579 kbps     107,987 kbps    00:32:49.133    86,381 kbps     00:25:20.685    81,910 kbps     00:25:20.685    0 bytes         1,331,998 bytes 00:33:00.478    
    6               0:33:58.995     0:03:39.510     68,165 kbps     104,349 kbps    00:34:14.135    80,792 kbps     00:34:10.256    76,596 kbps     00:34:05.293    0 bytes         1,341,218 bytes 00:34:14.218    
    7               0:37:38.506     0:03:03.224     62,041 kbps     91,857 kbps     00:39:33.746    76,825 kbps     00:39:29.867    75,790 kbps     00:39:30.493    0 bytes         1,114,671 bytes 00:39:34.622    
    8               0:40:41.730     0:06:11.245     70,993 kbps     108,007 kbps    00:46:14.938    81,267 kbps     00:40:54.952    79,635 kbps     00:40:49.947    0 bytes         1,310,692 bytes 00:45:22.177    
    9               0:46:52.976     0:04:37.277     71,615 kbps     108,264 kbps    00:49:23.543    81,677 kbps     00:49:19.456    77,832 kbps     00:49:14.534    0 bytes         1,490,308 bytes 00:51:03.852    
    10              0:51:30.253     0:05:43.593     71,429 kbps     108,360 kbps    00:55:43.840    85,951 kbps     00:52:47.622    81,992 kbps     00:52:47.122    0 bytes         1,569,000 bytes 00:53:30.624    
    11              0:57:13.847     0:03:06.644     71,357 kbps     107,438 kbps    00:59:08.878    83,217 kbps     00:57:17.100    78,165 kbps     00:57:17.600    0 bytes         1,519,719 bytes 00:57:59.100    
    12              1:00:20.491     0:05:20.445     70,531 kbps     104,717 kbps    01:00:57.987    80,237 kbps     01:00:35.381    77,373 kbps     01:04:09.470    0 bytes         1,488,414 bytes 01:00:26.539    
    13              1:05:40.937     0:05:02.927     67,046 kbps     108,150 kbps    01:06:13.302    81,983 kbps     01:06:09.298    76,595 kbps     01:06:08.589    0 bytes         1,308,467 bytes 01:06:13.511    
    14              1:10:43.864     0:03:38.968     72,766 kbps     94,304 kbps     01:13:34.076    82,659 kbps     01:11:30.202    78,183 kbps     01:11:29.159    0 bytes         1,035,255 bytes 01:10:58.796    
    15              1:14:22.833     0:09:30.278     71,942 kbps     108,250 kbps    01:23:02.102    80,833 kbps     01:16:44.266    77,939 kbps     01:15:40.244    0 bytes         1,446,232 bytes 01:22:37.410    
    16              1:23:53.111     0:13:54.792     55,708 kbps     107,425 kbps    01:26:10.790    81,185 kbps     01:27:04.677    78,198 kbps     01:24:43.328    0 bytes         1,456,238 bytes 01:28:26.759
    Como se ve, el disco es un BD-100. La pista de vídeo incluye Dolby Vision.

    El UHD incluye un making-of de 2h y 1min de duración a 1080p, aunque sólo en inglés y sin subtítulos. El BD que acompaña al UHD también lleva este making-of.

    Pongo también el BDInfo del BD que acompaña al UHD de USA:

    Código:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Title:     Daybreakers - Blu-ray™
    Disc Label:     DAYBREAKERS - BD - USA
    Disc Size:      45,640,040,338 bytes
    Protection:     AACS
    Extras:         BD-Java
    BDInfo:         0.7.5.5
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00004.MPLS
    Length:                 1:37:48.696 (h:m:s.ms)
    Size:                   23,463,585,792 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          31.98 Mbps
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        22066 kbps          Left Eye / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        1803 kbps           Left Eye / 480p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 3.2
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    DTS-HD Master Audio             English         5431 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  5431 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
    Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
    Dolby Digital Audio             English         256 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   256 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround
    
    SUBTITLES:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Presentation Graphics           English         19.874 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           English         22.220 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           Spanish         20.879 kbps                     
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00391.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:37:48.696     23,463,585,792  31,985          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
    Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
    ------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
    1               0:00:00.000     0:04:39.612     15,911 kbps     31,603 kbps     00:03:23.161    29,374 kbps     00:03:22.160    26,684 kbps     00:03:08.021    82,939 bytes    302,772 bytes   00:00:13.013    
    2               0:04:39.612     0:03:44.557     22,975 kbps     35,093 kbps     00:06:11.621    32,948 kbps     00:06:10.787    30,573 kbps     00:06:08.618    119,783 bytes   354,060 bytes   00:07:23.401    
    3               0:08:24.170     0:10:09.400     22,916 kbps     35,072 kbps     00:16:40.791    33,001 kbps     00:14:06.929    30,923 kbps     00:14:15.938    119,471 bytes   399,523 bytes   00:14:47.553    
    4               0:18:33.570     0:05:33.374     22,593 kbps     34,379 kbps     00:23:22.067    32,518 kbps     00:23:18.355    30,229 kbps     00:23:18.355    117,790 bytes   328,002 bytes   00:19:29.293    
    5               0:24:06.945     0:09:52.842     24,596 kbps     36,507 kbps     00:31:45.403    34,795 kbps     00:31:45.403    34,553 kbps     00:31:43.443    128,230 bytes   502,571 bytes   00:31:53.411    
    6               0:33:59.787     0:03:39.510     24,614 kbps     35,786 kbps     00:34:36.824    33,692 kbps     00:34:23.686    32,078 kbps     00:34:19.766    128,328 bytes   431,331 bytes   00:36:34.150    
    7               0:37:39.298     0:03:03.224     14,488 kbps     25,544 kbps     00:39:52.223    20,665 kbps     00:37:54.605    19,588 kbps     00:38:25.303    75,536 bytes    262,412 bytes   00:39:41.879    
    8               0:40:42.523     0:06:11.245     26,222 kbps     35,538 kbps     00:46:40.839    34,583 kbps     00:46:01.467    34,462 kbps     00:45:47.661    136,711 bytes   340,831 bytes   00:44:24.328    
    9               0:46:53.769     0:04:37.277     26,872 kbps     37,118 kbps     00:51:18.200    34,269 kbps     00:48:11.597    33,595 kbps     00:48:11.597    140,097 bytes   377,620 bytes   00:48:49.343    
    10              0:51:31.046     0:05:43.593     21,846 kbps     35,543 kbps     00:55:58.980    33,554 kbps     00:57:06.214    32,179 kbps     00:57:04.629    113,895 bytes   319,241 bytes   00:55:35.749    
    11              0:57:14.639     0:03:06.644     25,358 kbps     35,317 kbps     00:59:23.643    31,554 kbps     01:00:09.314    30,695 kbps     01:00:03.766    132,207 bytes   349,203 bytes   00:59:01.246    
    12              1:00:21.284     0:05:20.445     23,033 kbps     35,507 kbps     01:00:36.591    33,966 kbps     01:00:39.302    32,930 kbps     01:00:36.424    120,081 bytes   385,415 bytes   01:03:09.160    
    13              1:05:41.729     0:05:02.927     24,162 kbps     36,761 kbps     01:06:16.138    34,633 kbps     01:06:45.126    34,189 kbps     01:06:40.287    125,969 bytes   453,138 bytes   01:06:35.574    
    14              1:10:44.657     0:03:38.968     23,591 kbps     31,084 kbps     01:13:07.216    29,059 kbps     01:13:07.216    27,853 kbps     01:13:02.961    122,994 bytes   326,218 bytes   01:12:17.958    
    15              1:14:23.625     0:09:30.278     23,723 kbps     35,261 kbps     01:14:48.108    32,877 kbps     01:14:44.646    30,384 kbps     01:18:13.522    123,681 bytes   321,146 bytes   01:18:04.638    
    16              1:23:53.903     0:13:54.792     15,495 kbps     36,638 kbps     01:29:50.968    32,515 kbps     01:25:25.370    30,671 kbps     01:24:59.219    80,787 bytes    584,364 bytes   01:36:49.887
    El BD de USA lleva dos pistas de vídeo en cuya descripción pone "Left Eye". Ni idea de qué es eso.

    Recordad que la edición Blu-ray española viene en BD-25. La de USA, como se ve, emplea un BD-50 de Zona A. De modo que para comparar pongo también el BDInfo de BD español de Emon:

    Código:
    DISC INFO:
    
    Disc Label:     DAYBREAKERS
    Disc Size:      24,502,148,390 bytes
    Protection:     AACS
    Extras:         BD-Java, 50Hz Content
    BDInfo:         0.7.5.5
    
    PLAYLIST REPORT:
    
    Name:                   00000.MPLS
    Length:                 1:38:50.466 (h:m:s.ms)
    Size:                   22,945,069,056 bytes
    Total Bitrate:          30.95 Mbps
    
    VIDEO:
    
    Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
    -----                   -------             -----------     
    MPEG-4 AVC Video        25894 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
    
    AUDIO:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    DTS-HD Master Audio             Spanish         2111 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2111 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1152 kbps / 16-bit)
    Dolby Digital Audio             Catalan         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
    Dolby Digital Audio             English         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
    
    SUBTITLES:
    
    Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
    -----                           --------        -------         -----------     
    Presentation Graphics           Spanish         15.389 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           Catalan         15.891 kbps                     
    Presentation Graphics           Catalan         1.022 kbps                      
    
    FILES:
    
    Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
    ----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
    00011.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:00:10.427     31,125,504      23,881          
    00012.M2TS      0:00:10.427     0:00:05.004     2,420,736       3,869           
    00013.M2TS      0:00:15.432     0:00:26.151     77,838,336      23,812          
    00014.M2TS      0:00:41.583     0:00:21.688     67,049,472      24,732          
    00000.M2TS      0:01:03.271     1:37:47.194     22,766,635,008  31,043          
    
    CHAPTERS:
    
    Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
    ------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
    1               0:00:00.000     0:08:06.986     22,215 kbps     45,256 kbps     00:00:05.672    40,196 kbps     00:04:24.847    36,912 kbps     00:04:24.305    115,811 bytes   375,126 bytes   00:01:16.284    
    2               0:08:06.986     0:05:27.327     26,584 kbps     39,770 kbps     00:08:45.900    33,077 kbps     00:08:42.813    31,244 kbps     00:08:37.808    138,597 bytes   388,365 bytes   00:08:46.776    
    3               0:13:34.313     0:12:46.891     28,273 kbps     43,514 kbps     00:16:50.718    39,087 kbps     00:20:22.930    35,046 kbps     00:16:45.629    147,400 bytes   357,460 bytes   00:16:53.178    
    4               0:26:21.204     0:04:42.282     28,109 kbps     34,652 kbps     00:29:17.297    32,112 kbps     00:29:17.046    31,477 kbps     00:29:07.954    146,547 bytes   343,812 bytes   00:30:40.922    
    5               0:31:03.486     0:01:25.168     26,214 kbps     39,274 kbps     00:32:21.814    32,149 kbps     00:31:43.776    31,547 kbps     00:31:11.369    136,666 bytes   370,764 bytes   00:32:21.439    
    6               0:32:28.654     0:09:17.306     27,851 kbps     43,295 kbps     00:36:11.627    35,883 kbps     00:32:44.921    34,398 kbps     00:32:44.921    145,201 bytes   432,718 bytes   00:32:49.884    
    7               0:41:45.961     0:04:23.763     28,470 kbps     35,962 kbps     00:41:47.046    31,794 kbps     00:43:28.272    30,947 kbps     00:44:04.433    148,428 bytes   337,757 bytes   00:43:30.065    
    8               0:46:09.725     0:07:21.315     28,992 kbps     41,436 kbps     00:48:28.238    36,673 kbps     00:48:25.152    35,183 kbps     00:48:21.273    151,150 bytes   371,755 bytes   00:52:19.094    
    9               0:53:31.041     0:07:24.235     28,518 kbps     44,236 kbps     00:59:35.446    36,838 kbps     00:59:39.033    35,653 kbps     00:59:33.027    148,678 bytes   369,124 bytes   00:59:42.578    
    10              1:00:55.276     0:05:48.806     28,763 kbps     42,936 kbps     01:01:10.792    38,567 kbps     01:06:28.567    36,694 kbps     01:06:25.106    149,958 bytes   345,423 bytes   01:05:24.295    
    11              1:06:44.083     0:05:20.069     28,585 kbps     44,030 kbps     01:11:18.357    40,069 kbps     01:11:16.730    35,951 kbps     01:11:11.517    149,030 bytes   395,130 bytes   01:07:42.892    
    12              1:12:04.153     0:07:02.839     27,135 kbps     43,416 kbps     01:15:31.193    37,900 kbps     01:15:27.397    36,485 kbps     01:15:23.143    141,469 bytes   339,596 bytes   01:15:14.927    
    13              1:19:06.992     0:08:22.502     27,535 kbps     42,189 kbps     01:24:57.217    38,821 kbps     01:25:00.136    37,212 kbps     01:24:55.757    143,553 bytes   372,844 bytes   01:27:12.936    
    14              1:27:29.494     0:04:58.423     27,481 kbps     43,916 kbps     01:30:56.284    37,494 kbps     01:27:31.663    34,204 kbps     01:27:30.036    143,275 bytes   355,141 bytes   01:27:55.895    
    15              1:32:27.917     0:06:22.548     2,634 kbps      5,404 kbps      01:37:51.907    5,125 kbps      01:37:49.905    4,912 kbps      01:37:50.364    13,736 bytes    292,046 bytes   01:37:52.408
    Como anécdota del BD de Emon, viene con subtítulos forzados en catalán, pero no en castellano.
    Última edición por Conrado77; 13/11/2019 a las 05:46
    ryder y correasremy han agradecido esto.
    TV: LG 43UH668V 4K HDR10
    Reproductores de UHD y Blu-ray: Samsung UBD-M8500 + Pioneer BDP-180

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    Predeterminado Re: Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

    Uf, anoche vi el UHD y madre mía, qué decepción en cuanto a detalle y definición. Compré a ciegas y resulta que ha habido mucha polémica con este UHD. Lo explica muy bien el chico del vídeo de abajo. El UHD tiene menos detalle que el Blu-ray. Sí, habéis leído bien. Gana en colorimetría gracias a HDR y Dolby Vision, pero pierde en definición respecto del Blu-ray. Debe tratarse de un caso único dentro de los UHD(s). Por lo visto, los fans de HDR y Dolby Vision encontrarán la edición interesante. Pero los que valoramos más la definición y el detalle, pues un fracaso.

    Puede que el transfer a 4K sea correcto y que de donde no haya no se pueda sacar. Pero vamos, sea como sea, a mí no me convence.

    En Blu-ray.com hay dos reviews de usuarios particulares que dicen lo siguiente de la calidad de imagen:

    "Avoid
    Rescan of a filmout from the 2K DI data with considerably less sharpness and detail than the original Blu Ray of this film. Garbage in, garbage out.
    "

    "Lionsgate does filmout again
    Enjoyed watching the movie itself. Picture is very soft. Colors while intentionally desaturated do not come across well in this presentation. HDR does its best and audio is too low for this dialogue driven movie. Recommended only for its low price.
    "

    Pese a ello, el equipo de Bluray.com le da un 4 sobre 5 en calidad de imagen.

    A la noche, con más tiempo, pondré capturas en 4K con HDR.

    Spoiler Spoiler:
    Última edición por Conrado77; 13/11/2019 a las 07:22
    ryder y correasremy han agradecido esto.
    TV: LG 43UH668V 4K HDR10
    Reproductores de UHD y Blu-ray: Samsung UBD-M8500 + Pioneer BDP-180

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    Predeterminado Re: Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

    El BD de USA será 3D, por eso tendrá dos pistas de video, y una te indica a que ojo se refiere.
    Conrado77 ha agradecido esto.

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    Predeterminado Re: Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

    Cita Iniciado por fjavier_gr Ver mensaje
    El BD de USA será 3D, por eso tendrá dos pistas de video, y una te indica a que ojo se refiere.
    Lo raro es que pone que las dos son del ojo izquierdo.
    TV: LG 43UH668V 4K HDR10
    Reproductores de UHD y Blu-ray: Samsung UBD-M8500 + Pioneer BDP-180

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    Predeterminado Re: Daybreakers (Daybreakers, 2009, Michael Spierig, Peter Spierig, The Spierig Brothers)

    Cita Iniciado por Conrado77 Ver mensaje
    Lo raro es que pone que las dos son del ojo izquierdo.
    Pues no sé...

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