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    Score de "Disclosure day" escuchado. Sería mas que merecida y justo ganadora del sexto oscar (se que no lo ganará, después de lo de "Fabelmans" perdiendo frente a "Sin novedad en el frente" o el premio a Emilia Pérez en mejor canción no tengo fe en los premiso musicales en la academia)

    Me está costando muy mucho asimilar que es posiblemente lo último nuevo que escucharé del compositor que ha marcado mi afición por la música de cine (y posiblemente de muchos de los que leemos en este foro)
    Branagh/Doyle y Nyarla_thotep han agradecido esto.
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, this day shall gentle his condition; and gentlemen in England now-a-bed shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

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    Resulta que la banda sonora de Disclosure Day se puede ordenar cronologicamente sin necesidad de editar o unir las pistas, algo muy raro tratandose de John Williams. En mi opinión, funciona MUCHO pero que MUCHO mejor así que en el orden que ha escogido el maestro para el album, y todo cobra sentido estructuralmente (no siendo este un score temático salvo por el tema central, ojo).

    Este es el orden que teneis que poner (cortesía de Jason Leblanc).

    7 negotiation… 3:25
    12 signs… 2:37
    3 dive… 4:37
    4 chase… 2:14
    14 caught… 5:56
    5 believe… 3:35
    13 home… 3:37
    2 memory… 4:07
    8 empathy... 2:24
    9 celestial… 6:50
    10 unseen… 3:09
    11 kcxe… 5:56
    15 disclosure… 4:22
    6 in vivo… 2:49
    16 reprise… 4:54
    1 listen… (End Credits) 4:08





    PD: En la película solo hay 15 minutos de música más que en el album, así que la edición discográfica recoge la obra casi al completo. Me hubiese gustado que la edición incluyese también un breve tema rítimico resuelto exclusivamente con sintetizador que se emplea en una de las secuencias de mas suspense del film. Es uno de los mejores momentos del score.
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Jojojojojo.




    Comparado con:




    El maravilloso mundo de las pistas temporales, damas y caballeros.

    PrimeCallahan ha agradecido esto.
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Recuérdese que en El Reino de la Calavera de Cristal aparece el motif de los aliens de la Guerra de los Mundos
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.
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    Basta de la hipocresia filmica


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    Resulta que la banda sonora de Disclosure Day se puede ordenar cronologicamente sin necesidad de editar o unir las pistas, algo muy raro tratandose de John Williams. En mi opinión, funciona MUCHO pero que MUCHO mejor así que en el orden que ha escogido el maestro para el album, y todo cobra sentido estructuralmente (no siendo este un score temático salvo por el tema central, ojo).

    Este es el orden que teneis que poner (cortesía de Jason Leblanc).

    7 negotiation… 3:25
    12 signs… 2:37
    3 dive… 4:37
    4 chase… 2:14
    14 caught… 5:56
    5 believe… 3:35
    13 home… 3:37
    2 memory… 4:07
    8 empathy... 2:24
    9 celestial… 6:50
    10 unseen… 3:09
    11 kcxe… 5:56
    15 disclosure… 4:22
    6 in vivo… 2:49
    16 reprise… 4:54
    1 listen… (End Credits) 4:08





    PD: En la película solo hay 15 minutos de música más que en el album, así que la edición discográfica recoge la obra casi al completo. Me hubiese gustado que la edición incluyese también un breve tema rítimico resuelto exclusivamente con sintetizador que se emplea en una de las secuencias de mas suspense del film. Es uno de los mejores momentos del score.
    No acabo de encontrar la música que suena en ese íntimo y precioso momento en que aparece el pájaro en el apartamento de Blunt y ella se queda absorta. Creo que sólo volvio a sonar en otro momento más de la película y es verdaderamente precioso.

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    No acabo de encontrar la música que suena en ese íntimo y precioso momento en que aparece el pájaro en el apartamento de Blunt y ella se queda absorta. Creo que sólo volvio a sonar en otro momento más de la película y es verdaderamente precioso.
    Es una de las versiones vocales del tema principal de la película Listen. Suena tres veces en la película, con el pájaro, con el ciervo, y con el zorro. En la edición discográfica solo aparece el del ciervo, brevemente al final del corte in vivo...
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Que bueno es el viejo Williams, leche. Y que bien ha hecho Spielberg en hacerle caso. En principio, Spielberg quería una banda sonora sinfónica de grandes dimensiones, un montón de música... pero Williams vio Disclosure Day y le dijo que, en su opinión, a una película tan decididamente formalista como esta una partitura omnipresente en primer plano la ahogaría, reduciendo la efectividad de la puesta en escena.

    Y tiene razón. De las dos horas y veinticinco minutos de metraje, solo tienen música 80 minutos. La
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    ¿Grandes momentos?


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    PrimeCallahan ha agradecido esto.
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    La mujer de John Powell es la voz solista del score.

    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    La mujer de John Powell es la voz solista del score.
    ¿No había fallecido hace años?
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.

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    ¿No había fallecido hace años?
    Su nueva esposa.
    Ponyo_11 ha agradecido esto.
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Su nueva esposa.
    Entiendo, me alegro por él, no sabía nada, por eso preguntaba.
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.

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    Basta de la hipocresia filmica


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    How Williams Scored ‘Disclosure Day’


    John Williams‘ music for “Disclosure Day” marks his 30th score for director Steven Spielberg, dating back more than half a century to their first film together, “The Sugarland Express” in 1974.

    It could be Williams’ final score for the movies. No one has formally stated that, and in fact Spielberg says he’s already spoken to Williams about doing their 31st together.

    But Williams is now 94, and hinted three years ago that his score for Spielberg’s “The Fabelmans” would likely be his swansong. The director talked him into doing “Disclosure Day” even after Williams suggested four other composers as possible successors.




    John Williams‘ music for “Disclosure Day” marks his 30th score for director Steven Spielberg, dating back more than half a century to their first film together, “The Sugarland Express” in 1974.

    It could be Williams’ final score for the movies. No one has formally stated that, and in fact Spielberg says he’s already spoken to Williams about doing their 31st together.





    Williams is no longer doing press interviews (“preferring to marshal his energies to focus on writing obligations,” says a spokesman) and Spielberg was not available for this story.

    Multiple sources say Spielberg wanted a Williams score for “Disclosure Day” so badly that he made it as easy as possible for the composer, scheduling seven recording sessions over a six-month period to give him the necessary time to conceive and record all of the music.

    Most film sessions are done over a week or two, and many composers have only a few weeks to compose a complete film score. Williams, who has faced unspecified “health challenges” over the past two years and is now only seen in public in a wheelchair, tackled “Disclosure Day” with surprising energy, sources report.

    Williams began writing last summer. An orchestra of 96 players was assembled, with the first recording date at Sony (in the recently renamed “John Williams Music Building”) on Sept. 11, 2025.

    It was a traditional symphonic ensemble, sources report, although one especially dark cue demanded no fewer than four bassoons; the keyboards included not just piano and celeste but also synthesizer; and there were two harps instead of the usual one.

    And while the film’s credits say that the score was “orchestrated and conducted by” Williams along with longtime colleagues William Ross and Randy Kerber, those closest to the maestro insist that Williams orchestrated the entire score and conducted much of it, usually while seated but also standing at times.

    Anyone who has ever witnessed Williams at a recording session will tell you that he is always very precise about orchestral detail, knowing exactly how every note should sound. Ross and Kerber did occasional “adaptations” of Williams’ material to accommodate revisions in the film, sources say.

    Recording continued through the fall and winter: two more sessions in October, two in December, one in January 2026 and a final session on Feb. 20. The extended schedule allowed the composer ample time to compose, so the score developed as the months rolled on.

    “John was in amazing spirits,” says one musician, “always so gracious and humble. He was very acutely aware of rhythmic flaws and nuances, and sometimes obsessed a little. Spielberg was delighted with everything.”

    The director took an active role throughout, sources say. “He had a lot of input,” says another musician. “That relationship felt so special to witness. There was even a moment when he made a musical suggestion and they tried something a little bit different. They actually ended up going with that. It just felt like an encapsulation of their relationship, how well they know each other, and how well they understand each other’s craft. It was almost magical.”

    On Dec. 19 the orchestra was joined by a 30-voice female choir. They were evenly divided into sopranos and altos, plus a solo voice for a handful of cues. The choice of singer required some experimentation and auditions by a handful of singers, including children, but the final choice (credited in the film as “vocal soloist”) was Holly Sedillos, whose voice can be heard briefly in the film but more prominently during the end credits.





    Interestingly, the choir recorded their wordless vocal sounds together with the orchestra, another unusual aspect of the sessions. Most composers record choir separately and mix them with orchestra later; Williams prefers everyone in the same room at the same time.

    All of the sessions were closed and attended by very few. Spielberg was in the cavernous studio, just a few feet away from Williams, along with music editor Ramiro Belgardt; together they shared a small screen and could watch the film unspool as cues were recorded.

    No film was projected onto the big screen behind the orchestra, as would happen under normal circumstances; that way no musician or studio technician could see any of the (then) super-secret footage.

    Over the course of seven sessions, Williams recorded more than two hours and 20 minutes of music. The final film contains 82 minutes of score. Some of the extra music was reserved for the soundtrack album.

    Spielberg is quoted in the film’s press notes as saying, “‘Disclosure Day’ is probably the most restrained score he has ever written for one of our collaborations—at least until it is not. But until those moments, he holds back in a way that is subtle and beautiful and enriches the experience. It is like he is accompanying the film from slightly behind it, pushing it forward.”

    Much of the score is mood-setting, but in an undeniably sophisticated way. Williams’ main theme is contemplative and ultimately powerful, tinged with Americana (as much of the film takes place in middle America).

    Eerie string passages and occasional dissonances subtly harken back to his score for “Close Encounters of the Third Kind,” which now seems a precursor to this film. Darker moments reflect the government forces trying to stop the release of secret UFO footage; more fast-paced ones help propel Margaret (Emily Blunt) and Daniel (Josh O’Connor) on the run throughout the film.

    At the end of the final session, cake and champagne were served behind engineer Shawn Murphy’s mixing board, with Spielberg remarking, “this is our 30th movie together, and we’re still in love,” and Williams responding with a line he’s used before: “Steven’s a man you can’t say no to.”

    This was where Spielberg told the small group that he has an idea for his next film, “and John just said yes.” Adds a Williams associate: “So long as he’s able, he’ll do the next movie.”

    “Disclosure Day” is the 105th theatrical film to feature an original John Williams score. His first was in 1958, and since that time he has been honored with 54 Oscar nominations, winning five; and 76 Grammy nominations, winning 27.

    His latest concert composition, the six-minute “Bravo Gustavo,” was debuted last week by the Los Angeles Philharmonic at Disney Hall as Gustavo Dudamel, a close friend of Williams, prepares to depart for his new position with the New York Philharmonic.

    Mike Knobloch, president, NBC-Universal Music and Publishing, told Variety after Monday’s New York premiere: “John and Steven were allowed to take time, the months that they needed from September to almost March, a rare luxury that most filmmakers wouldn’t get.

    “This legendary composer, the godfather of modern film scoring, did what we hoped he would do, which was to create a distinctive, unique, original and transcendent score for this Spielberg movie in the way that only he can. It’s a character in the movie—exhilarating, scary, poetic.”
    PrimeCallahan ha agradecido esto.
    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Here is some of the banter between Williams and Spielberg at the recording sessions, who clearly love and respect each very much:

    “You’ve been making me look better than I am for years.” JW to SS
    “That’s wicked weird.” - SS
    “I’m glad I thought of it.” - JW
    “You know what that is, that’s a fabulous Bernie Hermann love scene.” -JW to SS
    “I don’t want it to be too much. Then it’ll be the Marx Brothers” JW
    “This is the first time in 40 movies that we’ve stopped the music like that. We’re making experimental cinema.” -SS to JW
    “Didn’t we stop the music on the shark?” -JW to SS
    “Each piano note is a single-note sonata, so to speak” -JW
    (About Emily Blunt)
    “She’s very beautiful. …is she nice?” -JW
    “Yes, she’s very nice.” -SS



    What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.

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    Le han bajado la nota en MundoBSO.

    Dicho lo cual, considero el trabajo de Williams para esta pelicula, sustancialmente, notable alto, eh.

    No necesita un score grandioso -de hecho, seria contraproducente, el film apenas tiene una conceptualidad similar a Encuentros en la Tercera Fase u E.T., es mucho mas intimista en lo que concierne al cine ufologico de Spielberg-, Williams apoya a Spielberg, como Spielberg apoya a Williams desde sus respectivos campos, trabajan con una sinergia que es deliciosa.

    La secuencia pre-final, me parece de largo, el ejemplo de como el tandem funciona desde el sense of wonder, pasando por el suspense y el temor, que no terror, hasta el asombro y el descubrimiento, que es que da escalofrios a nivel tecnico, pocas veces he visto este nivel en una pelicula, muy pocas.

    Y dramaturgicamente, Williams chapeu, como siempre, el tio sabe emocionar.
    Branagh/Doyle ha agradecido esto.
    MI COLECCIÓN

    Basta de la hipocresia filmica


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