En Compañía de Lobos

El pasado 17 de Octubre Granada Ventures lanzó al mercado en el Reino Unido una edición especial de esta extraordinaria película de Neil Jordan, con mejora anamórfica, sonido 2.0 estereo, audiocomentario de su director y co-guionista, un extra denominado guía definitiva tras las cámaras y una galería de fotos, todo ello dentro de una caja aparentemente metálica del estilo de la "Terminator 2" o "El Hundimiento". Alguien se ha hecho con esta edición? Podría comentarnos si incluye subtitulación aunque sea en inglés y evaluar la calidad audiovisual y el posible interés de los extras?
Gracias :)

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Sí, porque la edición que había aquí editada era una basura (de Filmax, creo).

Un saludo :hola

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Sí, porque la edición que había aquí editada era una basura (de Filmax, creo).

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Fué buena mientras duró (y era barata), que otra forma sino de ver a Danielle Dax haciendo de lobita... ? :amor

Ahora a :babas :babas :babas ! Me la llevo!

MacAbuelita

DVD Specs
Region:2
DVD Released:17th October 2005
DVD Country:United Kingdom
Running Time:91 minutes
Screen Format:16:9 Anamorphic PAL
Discs / Sides / Layers:1 / 1 / Dual
Soundtracks:English (Dolby Surround)
Subtitles:English HOH
Special Features:
Neil Jordan Commentary
Trailer
Stills Gallery
Behind the Scenes Dossier
DVD Distributor:Granada Ventures


The Film

Horror films traditionally thrive on two, usually inter-related, features: blood and shocks. Though it was marketed in America as a gruesome farrago of gore, werewolves and sexual intrigue, The Company of Wolves couldn’t be farther removed from the lycanthropic horror-comedies of the early ‘80s (notably The Howling and American Werewolf in London). A dreamy and fantastical reworking of Little Red Riding Hood, director (and sometime author) Neil Jordan exercises his trademark visual panache to create a surrealistic – and, on occasion, explicitly violent – exploration of burgeoning female sexuality and the fear and physical discomfiture that accompanies it. Imagine the philosophies of a Catherine Breillat film as transmitted through the beguiling aesthetics of David Lynch (with the occasional gruesome Dario Argento flourish) and you’ll have a relatively accurate impression of the film’s artistry. In spite of its pervasive symbolism and metaphor, The Company of Wolves still functions ably as a delirious mixture of fantasy and horror: taking the fables of the Brothers Grimm and magnifying and embellishing their darker undertones. For the adventurous, The Company of Wolves makes for rewardingly esoteric viewing.

The film is essentially an amalgam of several of Angela Carter’s short stories, taken from her collection ‘The Bloody Chamber’, which reinterpreted various fairytales with a decidedly feminist and overtly sexual twist. The film begins in the 20th Century as a husband and wife return to their country manor. Whilst their older daughter enthusiastically welcomes them, their younger child Rosaleen (Sarah Patterson) remains wilfully asleep in her bedroom. Moments later we enter the dream world of Rosaleen: a magical forest whose human population uneasily coexists with the numerous wolves that inhabit the woodland’s more secluded areas. After her sister is mauled to death by a pack of wolves, Rosaleen is regaled with a variety of grisly stories about werewolves by her grandmother (Angela Lansbury). Though there is solid backbone to the narrative, the film often digresses into stories within stories, many of which are both elliptical in meaning and genuinely creepy in content. The justification for this apparent diffuseness in storytelling is that we know from the outset that what we are seeing are illusory representations of Rosaleen’s uneasiness about the encroachment of adolescence, rather than entirely cohesive, self-contained stories (although many of them also work on this level).

The numerous stories that are told generally involve a man-cum-wolf in some manner attempting to harm a woman. The plot builds towards Rosaleen’s own encounter with an impressively dapper werewolf, who seems far more intent on kissing her than eating her, but along the way we discover the origins of the werewolf and the signs by which we may recognise one. The werewolf appears to be a symbol of both predatory masculinity and sexual voraciousness; a notion the grandmother tirelessly reiterates to Rosaleen in an effort to inculcate a fear of men in her. And it’s herein that we find an added layer of complexity. The Company of Wolves is far from merely being a vindictive feminist fantasy that bludgeons the audience with the hugely simplistic thesis that man = animals: as the film progresses the wolf becomes, if anything, a figure of impotence – as much worthy of pity as it is of fear. Rosaleen may - in full Little Red Riding Hood apparel - aim a shotgun at the wolf but she tellingly doesn’t fire, preferring to commiserate than to persecute. Indeed, the grandmother certainly isn’t a paradigm of maternal sagacity: if anything she is an inhibitory force, unreasonably trying to prevent Rosaleen from surrendering to puberty by keeping her from the company of boys of her own age.

If the film is beginning to sound threateningly like a seminar on allegorical weirdness (I haven’t even touched upon the recurring motifs of phallocry and menstruation), I hasten to point out that above the subtext rests a very engaging cross-breed of imaginative horror and twisted fairytale. Whilst unlikely to make you leap with terror, it can’t be denied that the many of the stories are highly effective, in spite of the constrictions of a limited budget and outmoded special effects. When Stephen Rea unveils his inner-wolf by quite literally tearing off his face, a great deal of self-discipline will be required to keep yourself from wincing. Another, almost sublimely disquieting, episode involves a very strange encounter with the devil (played here by the gauntly suave Terence Stamp). Featuring the anachronistic presence of a white Rolls Royce and a pretty blonde chauffer (acted by Patterson, again) the scene is indescribably sinister, and though it bears practically no relevance to the plot it’s among the films most unforgettable moments. As is the case with films that follow a particularly dreamlike narrative, it’s often necessary to surrender to the illogical beauty of the film’s more befuddling passages, and put rationality to one side. Symbolism excepted, there’s little obvious reason for Rosaleen to find a nest where the eggs hatch little statues of babies and yet it’s very in keeping with the film's prevailing tone of ambiguity.

On a more prosaic level, the acting is pretty good too. It’s become something of a trend for every new Neil Jordan film to reveal an unknown talent, among them Cathy Tyson in Mona Lisa, Jaye Davidson in The Crying Game and Nutsa Kukhianidze, who was the only good thing in the otherwise dismal The Good Thief. Sarah Patterson’s debut performance is at times a little wooden (although to be fair she was only twelve years old at the time) but her ineffable English beauty and distracted intonations do add to the otherworldliness of the film. Lansbury, the film’s only truly well-known actress, is believably fastidious and grumpy, but it’s the direction of Neil Jordan that deserves the lion’s share of the plaudits. Like all the best directors Jordan’s films are fiercely individualistic, not easily related to other cinematic works except those in his own filmography, and here he provides a virtuoso demonstration of his remarkable skill: ably creating a fantasy world whilst never overstating its unreality. Jordan’s best films reflect the exhilarating ridiculousness of life and the dazzlingly strange way in which it plays out, confounding our expectations at every turn. Some of these films are grounded in an entirely plausible milieu (The Crying Game, Mona Lisa and The Miracle), but here he lets the fantastical elements that shimmer beneath the gritty veneer of those films launch themselves to the surface in a weirdly fascinating bravura display of his ingenuity and distinctive command of the medium.



The DVD

Although The Company of Wolves has been available for years on DVD in the USA, France, Spain and Germany (to name but a few) it has only recently been released in the UK. Though it’s debatable as to whether it warrants the title of ‘Special Edition’, Granada Venture’s DVD is nonetheless almost certainly the best version currently available and, thanks to an excellent audio commentary, a must have for fans of the film. The disc is presented in a beautifully designed steel-book and comes with an uncomplicated, but effective, animated menu.

I do, however, have some qualms about the disc. The film is presented anamorphically in a 16:9 ratio (which roughly equates to 1.85:1, I believe: although according to IMDB the correct aspect ratio is 1.66:1) and for the most part the image is very good. Aspect ratio concerns aside the box lists the film as having been digitally re-mastered; however, in places the image really does look quite worn and damaged. The opening credits sequence looks fairly ropey, and some of the film’s particularly wide shots also suffer from an excessive graininess and an odd ‘flickering’ (the clearest example of this being when Rosaleen is standing at the top of the tree and we get a panoramic glimpse of the forest). The picture is quite grainy and there are infrequent spots of print damage but in general the image is sharp and the colours are well-defined, doing justice to this visually extraordinary film.

I suspect that this is the best video presentation of the film yet. The R1 transfer was non-anamorphic and reportedly very mediocre. The Spanish DVD was also non-anamorphic and if these image captures are anything to go by, equally uninspiring. The German DVD – despite ostensibly being re-mastered – fared just as badly. The French DVD (a review can be found here: it’s in French but the image captures are useful) was a little better, but despite being anamorphic it suffered from what appears to be some kind of artificial brightening which resulted in the image’s rather dull colours. Supposedly there is quite a good Italian DVD but I’ve no information on it. Though there’s clearly room for improvement, I suspect the UK DVD has the most faithful presentation of the film’s colour scheme and is also the most technically sound version in existence.

The soundtrack is in Dolby Surround: it’s clear, there’s no crackle or hiss and it renders George Fenton’s brilliant musical score excellently. Given that this was the soundtrack’s original mix I’m not too disappointed at the lack of a beefed up 5.1 remix. For those who think otherwise, the German and French DVDs both include 5.1 audio tracks.

The Extras

Despite the ‘Special Edition’ tag there’s only one extra feature of any real substance (fortunately it’s a good one): Neil Jordan’s audio commentary. Elsewhere on the disc there’s a trailer, which attempts to portray the film as an out-and-out horror flick by showing all the nasty bits, and a gallery of about thirty stills from the film. There is also a booklet (or ‘Behind the Scenes Dossier’ to be precise) included in the package, though since it didn’t come with my review copy I’m unable to pass judgement on its quality.

The commentary, however, is the real treat. Jordan is typically laconic but almost always engaging, and the fact that there is an interviewer to pose questions ensures that there are very few lapses into silence. Among the information gleaned is an account of Sarah Patterson’s near fatal interview on daytime TV (the TV producers thought it would be an interesting gimmick to have one of the wolves sitting next to her – go figure) and how they came very close to casting Andy Warhol as the devil. Those yearning for a little clarity about the film’s motifs and subliminal themes will also be pleased: Jordan is particularly helpful about the film’s rather bewildering final stages. All in all this is an excellent commentary.

Summary

I’ve little left to say about this film. Neil Jordan has done better but this is still an excellent piece of filmmaking, complex, beautiful and ultimately hugely compelling. It doesn’t adhere to the traditional precepts of horror cinema and it’s all the better for it. The DVD is a worthwhile purchase; both for the improved picture quality and the presence of one of the best audio commentaries I’ve recently had the pleasure of hearing. +

Excelente texto, realmente una cinta que me impactó por su belleza y por su magía cinemática, siendo adolescente, (como lo hizo M de Lang cuando era un crio). No es la mejor película de hombres_lobo de la historia ni lo pretende.

Ya está de camino -y no sale barata, jodó.

MacWolf

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Iniciado por Clint Munny

Sí, porque la edición que había aquí editada era una basura (de Filmax, creo).

Un saludo :hola

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Y que hay.... :apaleao :apaleao


Saludos

Ya, Whisper. Espero que en esa nueva política de Filmax, nos traigan esta de la que se está hablando, porque la aquí comentada no tiene subtítulos en peli ni en extras (y siempre se agradecen).

Un saludo :hola

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Ya, Whisper. Espero que en esa nueva política de Filmax, nos traigan esta de la que se está hablando, porque la aquí comentada no tiene subtítulos en peli ni en extras (y siempre se agradecen).

Un saludo :hola

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..esperemos ..porque la edicion en DVD actual (que tengo)..como comentais :grrr :latigo :pota

Saludos

La de veces que yo la he visto a 4 o 5 euros, y no la he cogido, esperando una como dios manda.

Un saludo :hola

¿Qué quiere decir eso de "Subtitles:English HOH"? El HOH ese me lia. ¿Llevas sutbtitulos en inglés o no? ¿Normales o para sordos?

Yo diría que son subtítulos para sordos, lo cual para mí ya es más que suficiente. De hecho tengo algunas ediciones de Zona 1 que ni siquiera llevan Close Captioned, pero era lo mejor que existía en el mercado en su momento y aunque no domino el inglés a la perfección si tengo un mínimo de conocimiento del idioma como para defenderme más o menos, aunque en ocasiones la calidad del audio y los acentos de los intérpretes dificultan bastante la comprensión del diálogo.

HOH

Hard of hearing, duros de oir/oido, oseas para sordos. En plan que te aparecen a veces los nombres de los que hablan si no se les ve en pantalla y cosas como "door closing" "rain pouring"..etc, oseas descripciones de los sonidos que ocurren en pantalla. A mí no me molestan demasiado pero prefiero los subs normales y si quieren que pongan los de sordos, pero que los diferencien.

A mi tambien me molestan muchismo, todo el rato con descripciones de sonidos y tal. Ojo, me parece perfecto y estupendo que se pongan, pero junto con los normales.

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Ya está de camino -y no sale barata, jodó.

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En Amazon UK está a £ 12,00 (osea unos 18 €)

Vamos a ver si Filmax o otro la saca aquí, o si baja un poco...

En Play.com a 6.99 libras.
:))

play.com

¿Viene en lata?

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¿Viene en lata?

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Supongo que sí. Te lo confirmo nada más me llegue. No recuerdo si dicha presentación era limitada.
Saluditos :)

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¿Viene en lata?

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La copia que me llegó hoy no viene en lata desafortunadamente. Lleva un librito bastante amplio. Lo revisaré esta tarde y ya comentaré.
Saluditos :)

Olvidé especificar que la caja con la que se presenta esta edición es una simple Amaray cuya portada muestra el perfil del actor Micha Bergese con el hocico de un lobo emergiendo entre sus labios sobre un fondo negro con el título del filme en letras rojas.
El librito que alberga en su interior contiene 20 páginas en las que se recoge la respuesta obtenida por la cinta frente a la crítica, el origen literario del proyecto, una pequeño estudio en torno a los cuentos clásicos repasando su nacimiento y evolución, un acercamiento a la leyenda del hombre lobo, un pequeño estudio referente a los símbolos presentes en la película y un perfil de cada uno de los actores/ actrices principales y sus respectivos personajes (incluyendo citas de algunos de los diálogos más representativos) así como del director y co-guionista, Neil Jordan, todo ello acompañado con aproximadamente una veintena de fotografías y alguna que otra ilustración.
En fin, si te consideras fan de “En Compañía de Lobos” y te defiendes con el inglés no dudes en hacerte con esta edición.
Saluditos

:)

Puedes confirmar audio y subtítulos.
gracias

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Puedes confirmar audio y subtítulos.
gracias

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Audio en inglés 2.0 y subtítulos en inglés para sordos. :)

Una lástima lo de la lata...

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Una lástima lo de la lata...

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Mas que lo de la lata, a mi me entristece que no traiga subtitulos en castellano. Pero bueno, siempre podemos seguir viviendo con la ilusión de que esas cosas salgan en infrazona.

Raiminiano, podrias hacernos una comparativa de imagenes con la edición de aquí?? Mas que nada para rebotarme un poco, pues seguro que han mejorado el triste master que habian sacado hasta ahora. :((


Un abrazo!

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Raiminiano, podrias hacernos una comparativa de imagenes con la edición de aquí?? Mas que nada para rebotarme un poco, pues seguro que han mejorado el triste master que habian sacado hasta ahora.

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Voy a intentarlo aunque es la primera vez que hago unas capturas de un dvd y las cuelgo por acá así que disculpad si es mejorable je je. La imagen anamórfica de la edición británica no he sabido como obtenerla con sus proporciones naturales. Tampoco sé
Arriba podéis ver las capturas de la edición inglesa y abajo las correspondientes a la española del sello Filmax. Las imágenes las tengo alojadas en Photobucket y no sé porque salen tan pequeñas :((
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Las imagenes que se suponen que son las inglesas, al ser anamórficas y sacarlas en cuadrado. Te han quedado alargadas. Pero bueno, yo al menos me hago una idea. Muchisimas gracias!!


Un abrazo!

Así, tan pequeñas y con tanta reducción no se aprecian muchas diferencias. A ver si sale aquí y lo comprobamos nosotros mismos. Para mí es la mejor de licantropía de la etapa animatrónica.

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Así, tan pequeñas y con tanta reducción no se aprecian muchas diferencias.

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Las capturas en mi PC pesan poco más de 1 MB y su dimensión es de 720 x 576 pero al cargarlas en Photobucket y colgarlas aquí han quedado directamente en ese tamaño, lo cual no me ha sucedido con otras imágenes, generalmente carátulas, que he mostrado anteriormente en estos foros.
Alguna sugerencia?

Buenas, :hola

El otro día vi en el videoclub la edición de hace algún tiempo de esta joya de Neil Jordan editada por Filmax ( :sudor )

La questión es: su formato original, según imdb, es 1.66:1. La edición de Filmax no es anamórfica, en la contraportada pone Letterbox.

Pero, ¿respeta el formato?

Gracias :juas

Siendo breve. Gran pelicula y autentica basura de edición.

Y pensar que pagué su precio de lanzamiento! :bigcry


Un abrazo!

Añado (no edito para que el autor del hilo lo vea):

Aquí en Dvd-Reviews tienes un análisis del dvd. :hola



Un Abrazo!

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Siendo breve. Gran pelicula y autentica basura de edición.

Y pensar que pagué su precio de lanzamiento! :bigcry


Un abrazo!

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Yo confrimo lo dicho por Txema.. a mi pesar


Saludos :hola

Yo te remito a este otro hilo y en mi humilde parecer la edición de Filmax no es tan desastrosa ni mucho menos como indican.

https://www.mundodvd.com/foro/viewto...mpany+++wolves

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Yo te remito a este otro hilo y en mi humilde parecer la edición de Filmax no es tan desastrosa ni mucho menos como indican.

https://www.mundodvd.com/foro/viewto...mpany+++wolves

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Opino lo mismo, la edición no es una maravilla pero de ahí a calificarla como "basura"...

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/71734...n/Product.html