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No, si será un título muy bonito y tal, pero no me extrañaría que aquí lo adaptaran como "Batman: Orejas de Pincho" :cuniao o algo por el estilo. Heath Ledger como Joker podría tener su cosa, al menos se puede entrever que el enfoque del personaje será bastante distinto al de Jack Nicholson (que a mí me encanta, por cierto). Por otro lado, a ver si el hermanito de Nolan le da un poco de miga a la historia (debo de ser de los pocos a los que "Batman Begins" le pareció una sosada de las gordas). Un saludete.
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No, si será un título muy bonito y tal, pero no me extrañaría que aquí lo adaptaran como "Batman: Orejas de Pincho" :cuniao o algo por el estilo. Heath Ledger como Joker podría tener su cosa, al menos se puede entrever que el enfoque del personaje será bastante distinto al de Jack Nicholson (que a mí me encanta, por cierto). Por otro lado, a ver si el hermanito de Nolan le da un poco de miga a la historia (debo de ser de los pocos a los que "Batman Begins" le pareció una sosada de las gordas). Un saludete.
Si el enfoque es que Batman y el Joker se van a las montañas una vez al año...
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Pero es que Heath Ledger ya es el Joker ¿o nadie se acuerda de la carta que le da Gordon a Batman?
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Respecto a Dos Caras, he visto rumores que hablan de John Cusack... y la verdad es que, para este personaje, lo prefiero mil veces al Phillipe (a pesar de lo buena que esté la Witherspoon).
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Joder, John Cusack sería cojonudo, pero no me lo imagino, no creo que hagasemejante papel... El Ryan Philippe este siempre se me ha atragantado bastane, la verdad.
Lo de Phillip Seymour Hoffman como Pingüino, me parecería cojonudo, si le caracterizan un poco, claro... Especialmente el pelo, hay que teñírselo, un Pingüino rubio no me pega. Espero que se mantengan fiel a la versión actual del personaje en los comics, que sea un secundario, figura prominente del submundo de Gotham, no el villano principal de la función.
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lo prefiero mil veces al Phillipe (a pesar de lo buena que esté la Witherspoon).
¿Y eso que tendrá que ver? :?
A mí me gusta el Phillippe, aunque el pobre iba para estrella y el casarse con quien se casó creo que jugó en su contra de todos modos sale en la última de Eastwood y como dice Nolan puede relanzar su carrera.
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Aunque no este confirmado y luego hay que verle en el papel y demas, de entrada me parece que Ryan Phillippe es un actor mas que decente. Lo poco que he visto de el, que ha sido godsford park y crash, me parece bastante estimable. Creo que puede ser un muy acertado harvey dent.
En cuanto a la edad de los personajes, se que ve nolan esta respetando al maximo la edad de los personajes en los comics. Si batman es bale, el joker debe de ser un actor tan joven o mas como bale , lo mismo dent, etc. Si exeptuamos al pinguino, que siembre ha sido un tipo talludito en los comics, la edad de los actores cuadra con la de sus respectivas contrapartidas en los comics. No como en las de burton o schumacher, con nicholson siendo como 20 años mas viejo que keaton, o lee jones 15 años mas viejo que kilmer o carrey.
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A couple weeks ago Better than Fudge spent some time chatting with director Christopher Nolan about his new flick "The Prestige", and of course talk about the Batman Begins sequel "The Dark Knight" came up.
Whereas the first film dealt with fear and the line between revenge and justice as themes, Nolan says the second deals with escalation and in loose terms "[how] things have to get worse before they get better". He also suggests the title plays a key part - "The title has been chose very specifically. It's quite important to the film".
Also interesting is what's planned for his take on The Joker - "I would certainly point to The Killing Joke but I also would point very much to the first two appearances of the Joker in the comic. If you look at where the Joker comes from there's a very clear direction that fits what we're doing very well".
Fans who were worried about Nolan making the character a more light hearted comical type like Jack Nicholson can rest easy it seems. The first two appearances of the character portrayed The Joker as a straightforward mass murderer and master thief who left smiling corpses in his wake. It was only a good dozen issues down the track that the character was changed to become a more comical and less deadly buffoon.
Also for those unfamiliar, 'The Killing Joke' was a famous and well-known one-off comic in which a back story of The Joker was mixed with a main story in which he tried to drive Commissioner Gordon insane through various ways, most notably shooting his daughter Barbara (aka. Batgirl) and leaving her a paraplegic.
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Nolan says the second deals with escalation and in loose terms "[how] things have to get worse before they get better"
Caña de Nolaaaaaaaaaaan!:palmas
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Penn Declined and Joker Inspirations
Author: Jett
Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 5:43 AM CENTRAL TIME: “Our Best Source” is back with some interesting revelations:
“You might want to dig up one of my ‘scoops’ for you from a long time ago -- just after Goyer leaked that The Joker would be in the sequel.
If you recall, I let you know that they would be going back to The Joker's first ever appearance, in BATMAN #1 1940, as the plot-line for the sequel. They will also be mixing in some plot threads from The Joker's celebrated ‘comeback’ tale from the 1970s, ‘The Joker's Five-Way Revenge.’
You may also be interested to know that Sean Penn was their first choice for Joker, and passed.
Doing an article search on one-time candidate, Aussie Lachy Hulme, I also found an old article in an Australian newspaper comparing him to Sean Penn in terms of looks and acting style. Small world, eh?”
He's right on with that Joker inspiration info -- I remember distinctly that info. It's somewhere in the archives and I'll dig through them later and find his scoop (Unless one of you BOF'ers beats me to it). Anyway, I found this blurb on "The Joker's 5 Way Revenge" from WIKIPEDIA.ORG:
THE GREATEST JOKER STORIES EVER TOLD "In 1973, the character was revived and profoundly revised in the BATMAN comic stories by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. Beginning in BATMAN #251 with the story "The Joker's Five Way Revenge", the Joker became a homicidal maniac who casually murdered people - even his own henchmen - on a whim, but enjoyed the battle of wits with Batman. This take on the character has been predominant since. Steve Englehart, in his short but well-received run on the book, added elements deepening the severity of the Joker's insanity."
Fuente: www.batman-on-film
Sean Penn era su primera elección!!!! :mola y él no quiso...:(
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Pues como Heath Ledger haga un papelón de villano veo a Sean Penn tirándose de los pelos y a su agente en el paro. :lol
Respecto a Dos caras,a mi me gustaría un actor poco conocido para que el público no le asocie con un imagen predeterminada.Eso sería lo ideal.
¿A quién sugerís vosotros?
A mi no se me ocurre nadie de momento.
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Liev Schreiber = Dos caras :atope
Ya va siendo hora de que el gran público lo conozca y vea de qué es capaz.
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Liev Schreiber = Dos caras :atope
Ya va siendo hora de que el gran público lo conozca y vea de qué es capaz.
Lo secundo :palmas
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Nolan said he was very surprised by Batman Begins' success, "for the simple reason that I felt we had really poured our hearts out in making a good film and that on our own terms we had succeeded. I never really expected to satisfy critics and Batman fans and regular audiences equally. I mean I thought maybe we'd get two points on the drawing board if you like, but the fact that all three seemed to respond well, that was a big surprise to me. I mean it felt like you were going to lose one aspect or someone… I think we were very fortunate in that regard, it's very gratifying."
Talking about the follow-up, in which Heath Ledger will play The Joker opposite Christian Bale, he mentioned that they're changing things up. "I think what people responded to well about 'Batman Begins' is how different it was from their expectations so I think we would be foolish to not recognize that and to [try to replicate that now predictable blueprint]. I think we'll be doing something very different for the sequel. I certainly wouldn't have any interest in trying to repeat experience or the formula we've made, because particularly being the origin story, it's a very unique thing, a very singular experience. My interest would sort of be to move on from that and to do something quite different."
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