Os dejo una entrevista en inglés que me ha parecido muy interesante:
Denis Villeneuve: "If You Don’t Deal With Your Shit Then Your Shit Will Stay Alive"
The on-the-rise Québécois director on how 2001: A Space Odyssey inspired his new film, Enemy.
SOPHIE MONKS KAUFMAN
A new year, a new film that deals in doppelgängers. Jake Gyllenhaal plays twice his usual quota of characters in Denis Villeneuve's Enemy. He's Adam, a weary teacher who sees his double in the backdrop of a rented movie. He's also the man in the frame, Anthony, a puffed-up actor with a beautiful wife played by Sarah Gadon. The entanglement between Adam and Anthony fuels this surreal adaptation of José Saramago's novel 'The Double'. LWLies chatted with Villeneuve, about coincidence, the power of the subconscious and enigmatic objects. In this case, spiders...
LWLies: Have you seen The Double?
Villeneuve: As I was doing Enemy I was aware that Richard Ayoade was doing a movie about the same subject, an adaptation of 'The Double' from Dostoyevsky. For me it was a total coincidence. There was something quite beautiful that as we made a movie about a doppelganger the same phenomenon was happening to us.
What did you put in the letter you wrote Jake Gyllenhaal asking him to work with you?
The letter was about the idea that I wanted to create a laboratory in which I will work with an actor to create together instead of just imposing myself. I wanted to share creativity with an actor. I had already a strong connection with theatre actors, editors, composers but not with film actors. I had a deep need to create a relationship and explore cinema, explore acting, explore directing with an actor and create a relationship. Part of the idea of doing Enemy was that it would allow me to spend a lot of time with a single actor and to develop technique and Jake fell in love with this idea. I think it was also about the intention of the movie which was to explore the power of the subconscious in one man’s life.
Could you say that you were Adam — the teacher, to Jake’s Anthony — the actor?
I’m sure that Jake would have loved that question! It’s very interesting and, in a way, not far from truth. We were shooting the movie in digital which means that we were able to play back. At one point I was in front of the camera with Jake and after Jake looked back at the frame, he punched me and said, “You bastard, you transformed myself into you!” And we were looking alike. We had beards, both of us and we had the same clothes. It was very strange and it was a total coincidence.
Sometimes I like to describe the movie as a documentary about Jake Gyllenhaal’s subconscious. And it’s dishonest in a way because it’s also about my own inner space. The focus is really about the encounter between a director and an actor. We developed the characters according to our own sensibility. One character is more about narcissism and the other one is more about fear and doubt and both are part of both of us.
Are you not worried that — as happens in the film — when you try to combine two consciousnesses, one will conquer the other?
My fear is not about that. The movie is a warning. If you don’t deal with your shit then your shit will stay alive. It’s really about the fact that I’m afraid that there’s power from inner anger and inner fears that are coming from the past that are stronger than our will and that they can mislead us and that we are not really free in some ways. That is my biggest fear in life right now because it is a big barrier between a human being and their real adult life. It’s something that as a human being I’ve been struggling with a lot and as an artist too. For me it’s more about this idea that the spider will come back at the end.
Women and spiders frequently feature together. Do you see women as spiders trying to trap men in their webs?
No, I don’t feel this way. This would be a negative thing. The spiders in the movie are frightening but they are not negative entities. This representation of spiders says more things about men then about women. When I was younger I was really in love with movies that were raising questions, that were trying to create a feeling of vertigo by subjecting images that were very strange and hard to understand. I was deeply excited by those movies. To give an example, 2001: A Space Odyssey is a movie that I still enjoy and I look at this movie very often. I’m still having fun looking at it trying to understand the puzzle. When I made Enemy I really had that kind of strange, playful fun creating an object that is going to be an enigma so it’s very important for me to not say too much about the spiders. I want audiences to really observe the image and have their own interpretation. It has a meaning that is very precise to me but I don’t want to impose it.
If you’re making a film that is about issues that you’re struggling with, how do you draw a line between expunging your feelings and telling a story?
It’s the job of the filmmaker to take intimacy and the inner world and transform it into a story.
What advice would you give to a filmmaker starting out on how to do this transformation job?
Oh! To be honest I cannot give advice because I don’t feel that I succeed at all but I will say to be as honest as possible. I think it’s a very delicate balance between expression and communication. The best movie balance between both. If you go too much on one side or the other, the move is is less strong.
But also you have to be able to communicate your core ideas with a crew of people?
A film director is someone who is a strong listener. He strikes a balance between using — in a good way — the strength of his crew and keeping objective. To make a film you have to be very precise, but at the same time I think that the beautiful thing about filmmaking is that it’s a lot of people in the rain or in the mud trying to create poetry at four o’clock in the morning. Even the worst movie you will see in your life demanded a lot of people's work. The more I age, the more I love to work with other people and the more I try to give them space to express their strengths. I’m trying to be as humble as possible. I’m trying to listen to other people’s ideas — to put my ego aside, basically.
You said in answer to my previous question that you don’t consider yourself a success. Why?
I have the deep feeling that I’m learning too much right now. I cannot be a master and a student at the same time and I feel like I’m student. I feel like I’m learning a lot a lot, a lot. I’m making a movie right now and the people that are around me are so much better than me! My cinematographer was Roger Deakins — my editor is Joe Walker, Steve McQueen’s editor — and those people are such strong artists. I’m learning my craft. One day maybe I will have learned enough and I will be able to give advice and teach but now I’m still learning too much.