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Tema: Halloween por Rob Zombie

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    Esto fue mas o menos como las de jason y las de freddy , que empiezan bastante bien( en el caso de jason, bien a secas) y luego se forma un desmadre de padre y señor mio, con una inmolacion total del personaje y una repeticion de esquemas y de crimenes hasta la nausea. Las de freddy por lo menos tenian el factor orginalidad de por medio en cada crimen, pero la cosa se fue desvirtuando bastante con un freddy cada vez mas apayasado e insoportable.

    Sobre este remake? Pues no tengo opinion en firme ya que desconozco el trabajo de rob zombie y no he visto ninguna de sus peliculas, pero el fichaje de macdowell como doctor loomis suena inquietante y a lo mejor sale algo curioso. Veremos.

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    Cita Iniciado por nogales
    No he visto nada del tal Rob Zombie e ignoro las razones por las que se le tiene tanto respeto en este y otros foros ( solo oi a un conocido decir que la de los 1000 cadáveres era una mierda ).
    ¿Pero no eras tú el que decías que se las daba de autor escudándose en la serie b?

    " I may be a bastard, but I'm not a fucking bastard. "

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    Cita Iniciado por GeckoBrother
    Cita Iniciado por nogales
    No he visto nada del tal Rob Zombie e ignoro ...
    ¿Pero no eras tú el que decías que se las daba de autor escudándose en la serie b?
    Sí.
    Cita Iniciado por Nogales
    jamás he entendido que le veís a Rob Zombie y demás directores medocres que se escudan bajo la serie B para darselas de autor...
    Es lo que tiene usar demasiado el "copy / paste" o escribir cosas que has leido y que crees que quedan bien aunque no sepas si son ciertas.

    La película tiene una pinta tremenda (por lo menos el trailer). Ese tonillo sucio y descuidado dela película le da un ligero airecillo a "Matanza de Texas"

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    bandicoot, comprate un mono y dale leña a él.

    lo que dije en su día lo decía más bien por toda esa ola de alabanzas y filias fanáticas que despiertan algunos directores, pero no era nada personal contra Zombie.
    RECREATIVOS NOGALES!!!!! Si entras, ya no sales!

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    OWNED

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    maldigo el puto día en el que se puso de moda los anglicismos chorras y snobs tipo owned en los foros.


    hala , a seguid hablando del enésimo remake de un film de Carpenter
    RECREATIVOS NOGALES!!!!! Si entras, ya no sales!

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    Cojonudo trailer. Yo también veo ese airecillo de suciedad, de crudeza, de brutalidad... No me ha decepcionado lo que he visto en absoluto. Esperemos que esa bestia parda que es Rob Zombie haya sido fiel a ese estilo tan malsano que le caracteriza para llevar a su terreno el material que maneja.

    Seguro que habrá sido lo suficientemente inteligente como para distanciarse en cierta medida del original e ir más allá e incluso abrir nuevas vías. Zombie dice que su película no es exactamente un remake, ya que afirma que: “I am basically making a prequel and a semi-remake of the first film all in one. So really in theory there will be more original content than remake content. That’s why I don’t like the word remake.”

    Me muero de ganas. :8)

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    ¿Nos vamos despidiendo entonces del festival de casquería que muchos esperamos?
    Bueno despues de ver como usa el bate pues creo que no se ha cortado mucho .
    Estoy a la expectativa porque aunque el trailer tiene detalles malsanos y que parece que respetan el orginal, otras cosas tienen un enorme parecido a productos mediocres como los de la matanza de texas actuales.Por un trailer no podemos decir apenas nada,que ya muchos chascos nos hemos llevado en el pasado.

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    perdon por mi ignorancia pero q significa eso de "owned"?

    Remake-precuela? Yo hasta ahora solo conocia el "Remake-secuela" (SUPERMAN RETURNS). Espero q esto sea major.

    De Zombie he visto su diptico y parece un tipo con talento (aunq no exactamente de mi estilo). El trailer esta curioso.

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    Cita Iniciado por F_Elliott
    perdon por mi ignorancia pero q significa eso de "owned"?
    es una payasada muy propia de foros de Internet, para hacerse el alternativo y tal.

    lo dices cuando alguien ha quedado en evidencia, una especie de "toma corte", pero claro, eso no queda tan snob y chupi-guay.


    ah, y bobadas de esas todas las que quieras...
    RECREATIVOS NOGALES!!!!! Si entras, ya no sales!

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    Joder, como estamos últimamente de tensos por aquí. Se me viene a la mente cierta frase que soltaba Robin Williams en "Good Morning Vietnam" que por decoro no pienso reproducir aquí L)
    Es fácil ser bueno; lo difícil es ser justo (Victor Hugo).

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    Hummm... Me he puesto el babero con el trailer, al final parece que va a ser menos desmelenada y optará por una vía más seria y menos freak. Y ese Malcolm McDowell (!!)...


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    Yo el trailer lo he encontrado bastante fiel al original. Ese clima de tensión que respiraba y respira la de Carpenter. Lo mismo toda la casquería se la está guardando y no quiere enseñar demasiado.

    Yo espero que ROb le de su toque.

    Qué ganitas!

    Un saludo.

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    Uhm.... será esta la película que pondrémos al lado de el remake de "la matanza de texas" en nuestras videotecas?

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    Cita Iniciado por nogales
    No he visto nada del tal Rob Zombie e ignoro las razones por las que se le tiene tanto respeto en este y otros foros ( solo oi a un conocido decir que la de los 1000 cadáveres era una mierda ).

    pero es que esto de poner a Malcolm McDowell como Loomis me inquieta bastante, lo confieso.
    Podrías ver sus 2 primeras peliculas y sales de dudas, yo ya era fan desde su grupo de música y su banda en solitario, pero con tanto amor por el género no podía más que esperar buenas cosas de su incursión al cine, y la primera sin ser una maravilla ya me encantó con su universo partícular, pero es que "The devil's rejects" ya es la puta hostia.

    Yo la original la respeto por ser un mito pero no me gustó nada, para mí lo peor del maestro carpintero.Asi que a ver si Rob le mete algo de chicha al guión, que en la original para mí era de lo más plano que he visto

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    Cita Iniciado por Soy cassiddy
    Uhm.... será esta la película que pondrémos al lado de el remake de "la matanza de texas" en nuestras videotecas?
    Estoy completamente seguro.

    Espero no equivocarme


    Un saludo.

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    Yo espero que no me decepcione ese punto como el remake de las colinas tienen ojos.
    Y espero una edición yankee con funda de cartón macarra como "Land of the dead" o las colinas, para que sí esté al lado en la dvdteca :amor

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    Halloween: On Set With Director Rob Zombie!

    After being committed for 17 years, Michael Myers, now a grown man and still very dangerous, is mistakenly released from the mental institution (where he was committed as a 10 year old) and he immediately returns to Haddonfield, where he wants to find his baby sister, Laurie. Anyone who crosses his path is in mortal danger.

    BD: So there was a misconception about the music…

    RZ: Yeah I don’t know how that started, and I don’t care how it started. You know what the music is? Undecided at this point. We always wanted to use pieces of the original score, kind of redone to fit our picture. But we haven’t done it yet, so I don’t like to lock myself in and say we’re definitely going to do anything. Because one thing you can’t judge is music against the picture, until you’re in the editing room cutting. But more than likely we’re going to use pieces of the classic themes.

    BD: In the original it was never revealed that Laurie was Michael’s sister, how did that effect how you went about the remake?

    RZ: This is a funny thing: I love the original, I’ve always loved the original movie, and still do, so whenever I discuss it, it seems like I don’t like it because I’m trying to change things. But the point was with this, I wanted to make everything significant. You know how in the original, things are just random? He robs the hardware store and happens to steal that mask… nothing really relates back to everything. You know, he just randomly discards his clothes exactly at the one booth in a hundred mile radius where Dr Loomis decides to stop at… and finds the matchbook on the side of the road… So everything was coincidental, and I wanted everything to relate more; giving him a purpose to break out and DO something. Because you know, it was “Babysitter Murders” and it became “Halloween”. So I wanted it to be more than just coincidence.

    BD: Michael has a room in the sanitarium where he creates a bunch of masks, what is your reasoning for him creating masks?

    RZ: First thing I wanted to start with is: “What is the reality of someone like Michael Myers?” And the reality is he would be a true psychopath, he has no concept of what he’s doing. He’ll kill his sister, and then talk about how much he loves his sister. That’s the reality of a psychopath, they’re not always scary, sometimes they’re charming and funny, maybe it’s someone who murders people; maybe it’s someone who just obsessively does not feel guilty about ripping off elderly people from retirement funds. That’s psychotic behavior. So when he does all these things, when he has the mask on is when he’s usually doing bad things, and when he doesn’t have the mask on he’s usually pretty pleasant and wonderful, which keeps creating conflict.

    It’s hard to explain but when you see young Michael, he’s very charismatic and likeable, and you start projecting that onto adult Michael. So even when you see Tyler, who’s like four feet taller, he still takes on the essence of the kid. I wanted the mask be just the way he hides. Throughout his time in the sanitarium he just has a series of masks, which is how he communicates, because he doesn’t talk for 15 years. So you have a lead character that doesn’t speak or show his face, which was fine in the original because it was all new. But I needed to take him out of the shadows and make him more significant, so that’s why I created the mask thing: to carry that through more.

    BD: When he’s chasing Laurie what are his motives, is he actually trying to kill her?

    RZ: That’s the thing; you have to draw your own conclusions as to what he’s actually doing, because adult Michael is kind of like a bull in a china shop in his best moments. I wanted to create a situation where at the end of the movie it’s not so clear cut what he was doing, Was he coming home to kill her? Was he coming home to find her because he loves her? You’re not really sure, and I think that’s more interesting.

    BD: Do you set up a sequel, even though you said you won’t return for one?

    RZ: No. But they can make a sequel out of anything. We were joking the other day, in the next one, they can get Michael’s body accidentally put in a truck going to NASA and he gets shot into space and somehow he’s on the moon, killing… (laughs) Whatever. They can do anything. But I haven’t done anything on this movie worrying about a sequel, because one thing’s for sure: all good movies do not have a sequel in mind. Whether it was the original Halloween or anything, they weren’t thinking about sequels, they figured out ways to make them happen. But you can’t try to make any kind of statement that’s going to have an impact on your audience at the end of your movie if you’re trying to set up the next one. In fact, when people do that you’re like, “Gah, you made me watch two hours only to give me a big ‘Fuck you, come back next summer’ at the end?” The ending to me is the ending. That’s not to say someone else won’t try to figure out how to make part 2, but it’s not going to be me. I was just worried about making one movie that was enjoyable and contained.

    BD: Did you shoot multiple endings for this?

    RZ: I never shoot multiple anything. You have to know what you’re attempting to do. Movies with multiple endings are always horrible, because other people get involved and people start weighing in with their thoughts suddenly people think its like open to committee where everyone’s like ‘well I think you should do this!” And you just have to be like: This is the ending and that’s the ending. You know, like Rejects: they died! I shot em, I killed at the end. I didn’t have one where they got away.

    BD: Have you looked past this movie to what you’re working on next?

    RZ: I’m not looking to the next thing; I don’t know what it will be. This just came up and turned into something that was impossible to pass up, so I just went with it. Who knows? I was looking at the calendar and realized that it exactly a year ago on Friday that I actually started the script; so it’s been a pretty fast process to starting the script to being done with the movie.

    BD: Has John Carpenter been here at all, have you talked to him about this at all?

    RZ: I talked to him before I started the movie, right before the news about the movie broke, just because I wanted him to the be the first person to know, so it didn’t seem insulting. And then I talked to him once in preproduction, and that was it. He’s cool.

    BD: Was there a conscious effort to make Laurie Strode appear younger?

    RZ: No, she’s just that age, I figured like, what a novel concept: cast a high school girl as a high school girl. (Laughs)

    BD: There’s been a lot of talk about multiple colored Myers masks, is that just when he’s in the Sanitarium or does it come out when he escapes?

    RZ: There are different things that happen. The classic mask is the mask in this movie, but there’s other things created in middle section that I don’t want to give away.

    BD: There were rumors about a tape recorder, is that something that’s still in the story?

    RZ: No, that’s not in the story anymore. It was just young Michael, it was never adult Michael. Whatever version of the script that anyone ever read was so old and outdated that anything anyone ever commented on was so long gone or changed it wasn’t even worth commenting on.

    BD: The fans: Do you at any point feel like you have to win them over?

    RZ: The only thing that’s going to win them over is if the movie’s good. What else can you do, right? I mean that’s all you can do; that’s the only thing that’s going to win someone over.

    BD: It had to have been a lot of work for you to step back and ignore all the comments…

    RZ: What I did was just ignore everything; I haven’t looked at a website or anything in six months. Someone would email something and say “Check this out” and I’d just delete it and write back “Don’t send me anything, I don’t care.” Because you can’t care, it’s all nonsense. I can’t keep responding to complete nonsense all the time. Life’s too short.

    And, you know, people are only saying all that stuff because they’re excited. And it’s great that they’re excited, but you can’t keep up with the rumor and speculation and insanity. It’s great how everyone has a “friend close to the source” who knows something and I’ve never read anything true!

    The only thing I commented on was something I read by accident, someone emailed to me and I didn’t even know it was in the body of the letter. It was saying that I was so mad about something that somebody at Aintitcoolnews said, so I had to post “I’m not mad at anyone and I don’t even know what they said”. But I hate that people are thinking I’m running around storming about things when I’m not.
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    es una payasada muy propia de foros de Internet, para hacerse el alternativo y tal.

    lo dices cuando alguien ha quedado en evidencia, una especie de "toma corte", pero claro, eso no queda tan snob y chupi-guay.
    Ese anglicismo me toca mucho los huevos, no me gusta nada. Y debe de ser americano porque aqui en UK aun no se lo he oido decir a nadie.

    Y de hecho, no da mas gusto decir TOMA YA, que owned? :?
    Vendo ediciones limitadas coreanas en DVD

    http://www.mundodvd.com/vendo-edicio...oreanas-98973/

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    eso si, la saga de Halloween está ya muy quemadita, ya ni distingo las ultimas que se hicieron, que si H20, que si La maldición de Michael Myers, que si Jamie Lee Curtis en plan revival en dos o tres, que si Josh Harnett por allí, que si Paul Rudd por allá.

    un lío , oigan.
    Si quieres te las explico. O si no es tan sencillo como verlas y ya está.
    Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

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    We were joking the other day, in the next one, they can get Michael’s body accidentally put in a truck going to NASA and he gets shot into space and somehow he’s on the moon, killing… (laughs)

    ¿Este no vió Jason X?

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    La coña es porque hace tiempo (antes de H20) hubo rumores de que Carpenter iba a volver para una nueva secuela de Halloween en la que Michael era lanzado al espacio.
    Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

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    El señor Zombie responde a unas preguntas sobre la peli...

    Here are a few answers to your questions.

    IS JAMIE LEE CURTIS GOING TO POP UP IN IT SOMEWHERE EITHER AS A CAMEO OR A SMALL ROLE?

    No, Jamie Lee Curtis does not appear in the film. Obviously I think she is great, but I also thought her presence would break the reality of this new film.

    DOES JOHN CARPENTER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW MOVIE?

    No, other than wishing me well with the project John does not have any involvement.

    INSTEAD OF HAVING DANIELLE HARRIS PLAY ANNIE WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT OF HAVING HER PLAY LAURIE?

    No, Danielle never wanted to play Laurie. She has always been a fan of the original Annie character and wanted to create the new Annie.

    HOW MUCH, IF ANY, CGI WAS USED IN THE FILM MAKING PROCESS?

    There are no CGI effects used in this film at all. Everything is an "old school" style gag.

    I KNOW THAT CLOCKWORK ORANGE IS ONE OF YOUR FAVORITE MOVIES. HOW DID YOU APPROACH MALCOLM MCDOWELL AND WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO WORK WITH HIM?

    I am a huge fan of Malcolm and yes A Clockwork Orange is my favorite film. Malcolm was a total blast to work with. He gave a 100% everyday and has created a fresh version of Loomis that is going to blow you guys away. We really get to know Loomis and follow his journey.

    HOW HAS THE INSTANT FEEDBACK OF FORUMS, SUCH AS MYSPACE OR MESSAGE BOARDS IN GENERAL, INFLUENCED YOU AS A DIRECTOR? DO THE LIKES OR THE DISLIKES OF YOUR FANBASE INFLUENCED YOUR DECISIONS?

    No, as a director you have to hold strong your vision. That is the only way something special can happen. "Too many cooks in the kitchen" is a recipe for disaster. I love the fans, but unfortunately the fans are usually basing their opinions on rumors and false information spread on-line.

    I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FILMED ON SOME OF THE SAME STREETS AS THE ORIGINAL; WILL ANY OF THE HOUSES FROM THE ORIGINAL APPEAR IN YOUR FILM AT ALL?

    Yes, I filmed in Pasadena in and around some of the same locations. In a few scenes you can see some of the famous houses in the background.

    DID YOU GET TO WORK WITH ANY OTHER FOLKS WHO WORKED ON THE ORIGINAL HALLOWEEN? HOW CONSCIOUS ARE YOU WITH REGARD TO RECREATING HOW THE MOVIE IS PHOTOGRAPHED?

    No, I didn't speak to anyone. As far as the photography I didn't try to recreate the look of the original. This movie has to stand as a fresh film not a copy.

    ANY PLANS FOR SEQUELS? WHERE WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THE FRANCHISE?

    I'm sure if the movie does well they will make a sequel. I have no plans to be involved.

    WHY DID YOU CHOOSE HALLOWEEN TO RE-CREATE? THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER FILMS, WHY HALLOWEEN?

    I didn't choose Halloween. Halloween chose me.
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    McDowell Signed for Three Halloween Movies
    Source: Rotten Tomatoes May 11, 2007


    While talking about playing Linderman in NBC's "Heroes," Malcolm McDowell also briefly discussed taking over the role of Dr. Loomis in the new Halloween, directed by Rob Zombie.

    "I've signed for three," said McDowell, "How about that? They obviously think it's going to be a big hit."

    McDowell has never seen any of the "Halloween" movies, and Zombie told him not to. "It's a new look, it's a reinvention of it and he is completely different, my Loomis, I presume. So I guess there will be some people that will be sort of disappointed if they think I'm just going to copy [Donald Pleasence] because I'm not."

    Halloween hits theaters on August 31.


    Fuente: www.comingsoon.net


    :? :! Produce cierto recelo. Espero que ello no condicione al film de Rob Zombie (difícil será).

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