Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 04/09/2025 a las 15:32 Razón: Errata
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Pues al final parece que de momento no es así. La ficha de la película en la tienda de Apple ha desaparecido por completo. Ayer por la noche aún ponía "disponible el 4 de Septiembre", y ahora aparece un cartel que indica que "este título ya no está disponible"
Que extraño.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
En las notas de producción de la película se habla de un primer corte completamente terminado que luego se editó a posteriori.
O sea, que existe, no es que se tenga que poner a hacerlo desde cero.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 08/09/2025 a las 14:51 Razón: Errata
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
«In a world where evil prevails, goodness becomes an act of rebellion»
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 08/09/2025 a las 14:51 Razón: Errata
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Borrado.
Error.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
What ‘Megadoc’ Director Mike Figgis Really Thinks of Francis Ford Coppola’s Troubled Epic ‘Megalopolis’
Dice Figgis que Coppola tiene suficiente material para lanzar Megalopolis como una mini serie de varias horas de duración. Si quisiese, claro. Por lo visto rodó UN MONTÓN.
Esto me recuerda... ¿cuantas horas de metraje bruto filmaron en Apocalypse Now? Creo recordar que también fueron una barbaridad, y que Walter Murch dijo que editar aquello fue toda una odisea.
I’d seen all the scenes being shot, so as they were shooting, I was thinking, that’s interesting, how are they going to cut that? How’s that going to fit into the sequence? The first time I saw it was in Cannes, it was the only time I’ve seen it. A couple of factors I have to add: I was very nervous because I was shooting, and I was just thinking of my batteries. Do I have enough light to shoot?
There are some scenes where I thought, that’s interesting what he’s done with that. I was still a little bit confused about the sequential, the timeline of it, and one of my feelings was there’s so much material, he’s shot so much stuff, and the story is so complicated that to get it into feature length, whatever it was at Cannes, underlines for me one of the problems that we have with film right now, since serial became such a big deal as a respected way of telling stories over five hours, six hours, that maybe this would work better in more of a serial kind of context.
I really liked when they did that with “The Godfather,” where there’s much more time with character. I felt that just getting the story into that box was slightly at the disservice of the characters. I wanted to know more about the characters, actually, personally, and about the love story and so on.
Since “Sopranos,” “The Wire,” etc. etc., that was such a gamechanger, and the attempt now by filmmakers to make the films longer and longer, I think there was kind of a rule about feature films, which is to do with your bum and the point when you start wriggling in your chair, it’s just too long. One of my favorite films is “Notorious,” and it’s something like 93 minutes, and it’s a perfect film, but it’s been written for that format. We’re still trying to write feature films because we love the idea of the cinema, and the feature, and sometimes there’s just too much stuff.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Borrado.
Error.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Mike Figgis:
The onset of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is kind of the perfect metaphor for the clash between his ethos of practical filmmaking and his willingness to try and engage with Marvel's special effects strategies. But he very quickly got frustrated and bored with the idea of bluescreens and greenscreens. Ultimately, he's a theater director that happens to film his performances. What he wants out of the experience is to have a visceral interaction with himself and the actors and the camera and if you're denied that because it's all going to happen in post-production, you kind of want to jump off a bridge!
Looping back to your earlier question about looking for conflict, within the first couple of days it was apparent that his approach and the Marvel approach wouldn't get along. I remember two moments in particular: when he tried the "poor man's process" for a car scene and then when he did a $100,000 projection on Adam Driver's face for an effect instead of the million dollar post-production version. It was clear that those two universes just weren't connecting.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
De este pasado lunes
Algunas cosillas que contó Coppola hijo (asistente de dirección y director de segunda unidad de la película).
El mejor amigo de su madre Eleanor, al margen de su esposo Francis, era George Lucas. Siempre fueron muy afines en caracter, gustos y personalidad. Fue su confidente toda la vida.
Hay planes de exhibir, en el futuro muy cercano, una versión roadshow de Megalopolis, con obertura, entreacto y música de cierre. Se emplearía para ello el montaje original más "exploratorio" (exploratory dice en inglés) que es muy largo, y es el que prefieren tanto George Lucas (que no alcanza a entender como Coppola creyó que había ido demasiado lejos teniendo en cuenta el clima socio politico de su pais y tomó la decisión de castrar -esa es la palabra que emplea, castrar- su visión original) como Walter Murch y Adam Driver. Según Roman Coppola, Lucas define el corte original como "a drug induced fever dream, gloriously unhinged and untamed"
Este montaje ya existe y está hecho, completamente terminado, pero hay cuestiones legales y de distribución que solventar. En su opinión personal el montaje de cines está bien y tiene un gran ritmo, pero el corte original es, en su opinión, lo más idiosincrásico y personal que ha hecho su padre en décadas, puro American Zoetrope. Lo que le ha hecho reconsiderar su postura ha sido la recepción de la película y los ataques personales de la prensa. ¿Que tiene que perder ya?
Hay también planes para una edición jugosa en formato físico.
Pide paciencia, y recuerda que el cómic se lanzará el mes que viene.
Poco a poco.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 24/09/2025 a las 22:30 Razón: Errata
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Esperemos que finalmente ese montaje se pueda ver.
Saludos
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 25/09/2025 a las 10:12
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)
Es mas, yo no veo a Labeouf siendo impertinente aquí. Me parece que es alguien que, al margen de sus problemas personales, es apasionado y dedicado en su trabajo.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Sí, es una discusión muy civilizada. Lo mínimo que se despacha en un set de rodaje. Pero incluso cosas así se suelen ocultar en el material "detrás de las cámaras" que sacan los estudios.
I'd imagine the whole world was one big machine. Machines never come with any extra parts, you know. They always come with the exact amount they need. So I figured, if the entire world was one big machine, I couldn't be an extra part. I had to be here for some reason.(HUGO)
Es una situación poco habitual, ya que la actitud de los actores en rodaje suele ser mucho más aislada y disciplinada. Como ya sabemos LaBeouf es todo un personaje y no sabe hacer nada sin esa actitud entusiasta e incluso invasiva...
Lo mejor es ver a Coppola al final con algo de hastío (el comportamiento de LaBeouf debió ser así todo el tiempo) y simplemente sentándose a esperar que el actor desarrolle su idea para poder rechazarla y decirle cómo lo quiere él...
Es un tesoro poder tener material BTS como éste, sin censura ni corrección impuesta por los estudios. Esperando ansioso el documental.
Charrán
Del ár. hisp. *šarrál 'vendedor de jureles'.
1. adj. Persona poco fiable, aprovechada o que actúa con picardía o engaño. Sinvergüenza, caradura o estafador.
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una persona: Que se comporta de forma similar o que evoca al cineasta James Gunn.
Reportaje sobre el comic basado en la película, que saldrá a la venta el próximo día 7 de Octubre.
Spoiler:
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Parece ser que el comic, narrativamente, queda todo mucho más explicado y cerrado, muchas veces solo por obra y gracia de pequeños añadidos.
Un pequeño ejemplo.
Me pregunto si el corte extendido de Megalopolis también incidirá en eso.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 08/10/2025 a las 22:16
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.
Visualmente no me convence nada el cómic, me parece poco trabajado y sin personalidad a nivel de dibujo. Veo que el dibujante es el hijo de Sean Phillips... lo que explica mucho, bajo mi punto de vista. Intenta emular el estilo de su padre, pero se queda muy lejos a nivel de calidad. Y el hecho de querer plasmar rostros conocidos, de los actores, no le ayuda. En las caras se nota mucho que su dibujo está muy verde todavía.
Argumentalmente tiene mi interés, sin duda.
Charrán
Del ár. hisp. *šarrál 'vendedor de jureles'.
1. adj. Persona poco fiable, aprovechada o que actúa con picardía o engaño. Sinvergüenza, caradura o estafador.
2. adj. coloq. Dicho de una persona: Que se comporta de forma similar o que evoca al cineasta James Gunn.
En mi opinión de lego en la materia, si parece muy tosco, si. Estoy de acuerdo contigo. Por cierto, no te comenté nada al final, pero me llegó el comic del Drácula de Coppola a casa, lo pude terminar hace poco y leche, es que no hay color, me pareció muy jugoso a nivel visual. Es cierto lo que me comentaste, que el estilo de Mignola es muy particular (mucho..) y que o te entra o no te entra, pero joder, tiene personalidad, se nota que hay un autor con mayúsculas detrás.
Aunque claro, tal vez la comparación sea injusta.
What makes Megalopolis so strange and, for a big-budget Hollywood film, so singular, is that, just like Vergil’s Aeneid, it is at once accretive, allusive, and idiosyncratic because Coppola is attempting something very few artists have ever done: to speak from inside the imperial organism, even as it begins to crack, and to craft a vision that is both a monument to its grandeur and a requiem for its decline.