The Refuse disc arrived today. I have a few notes about comparison of the two. Firstly, I’m not a die hard VinSyn (or Degausser) guy and I think them strongarming distribution in the US against a new label is shitty and I accept no justifications about it, no matter how widespread or common place it is.
Anyway, having got both discs I have skimmed both and this is what I have found to be the high and lowlights of both. For the record I am glad I got both, will likely keep both forever and still follow Refuse’s future releases.
VinSyn Wins:
The video master version has a true stereo audio track which sounds great through the Dolby Pro Logic. The physical scrapbook included is cool - the essay from a Chinese American media professor is interesting enough but I’ll never read it again - the photos are invaluable though. The new making of and interviews are professional and comprehensive.
VinSyn Negatives:
The included film version is pretty pointless IMO. Its only merit is for inclusiveness and curiosity value. I certainly disagree with VS that it’s the best way to watch. The packaging is a nice format but the artwork is not great. Colours are nice (and appropriately bold and primary colour orientated), but the likenesses are not good - only Trey and Toddy on the cover look right to me.
Refuse Wins:
Packaging is definitely better. Original art looks great. The included Alferd Packer cut (in watchable but unexceptional SD) is a big win. New interviews are really nice, the deleted scenes a great contribution, and the huge amount of archive materials include seldom seen full Tromaville Cafe and Troma Basement episodes and uncut interviews with Trey and Matt from 2006ish. The film has isolated Music and Effects track too, which is neat (was this ever dubbed anywhere?).
Refuse films Negatives:
The much ballyhooed transfer from first master tape, to my eyes, looks not appreciably different to VS’s video transfer. Maybe on your bigger TV or 4K set up this would be different but to me it looks almost identical. This isn’t necessarily a negative (both discs look good), but it isn’t the win I wanted it to be. The audio on this release for the film appears to be entirely MONO - at least my Dolby Pro Logic interprets it this way. I also think the Remastered 2024 audio sounds a lot weaker and thinner than the original audio (both are included with the Refuse disc).
So for the presentation of the movie I’d give the edge to VS as the audio matters to me, but while both discs have a ton of exclusive extras, I think Refuse’s package wins on that front by a hair. If you don’t care about the audio issue, the Refuse is going to be the best of the two.