"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Claro, pero Lucas es AUTOR, me parece ciertamente un desnivel ciertamente cuantioso.
Y eso da igual, si a cada vez dice algo distinto, y llama mentirosos a otros, que lo ha hecho, añado, queriendo tener toda la narrativa de la situación
Es obvio y cristalino que ambos son totalmente opuestos en todo, pero mentir es mentir.
Memoria selectiva lo suelen llamar.
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Qué provocaciones ridículas tan entrañables.
El hilo ha degenerado en consonancia a la estulticia que va presentando y se va conociendo de la película. ¡Metanarrativa!
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." «1984»
Y como básico, aparece al mentar al hacedor.
El hilo comenzó a degenerar ya hace tiempo, desde sus inicios , por intereses personales de la banda de siempre.
"The trick is not minding that it hurts"
Aparecí mucho antes. Sin ir más lejos, en la página anterior me tienes, con alguna reflexión inapelable. No tengo pérdida. Que no te percates de absolutamente nada más porque solo te ocupa y preocupa el control de daños de rigor es una de las constantes básicas del hilo, no te preocupes que ya nos conocemos todos.![]()
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." «1984»
Pero el revisionismo es una cosa y marcarse un Sanchez o un Trump es otra.
Lucas ha sido tajante desde 1978 en que el unico elemento del film que ha estado a la altura de mis expectativas es la música.
Además, yo en es esto tengo una opinión distinta a la mayoría: Creo que es legítimo que el autor cambie, modifique, e incluso retire de la circulación versiones primigenias de su canon (si tiene la postedad legal para esto ultimo, claro). Los compositores lo han hecho durante siglos.
Que demonios, John Williams lo ha hecho. Su primer concierto para violin es una revision de 1978, y la version original, compuesta a principios de los 60, ya ni se interpreta ni puede adquirirse. A todos los efectos no existe.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 29/05/2025 a las 21:43 Razón: Errata
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Entro a comentar con asiduidad en bastantes hilos sin necesidad de mentarle (más de ocho mil mensajazos ya). Si veo mención a Lucas, máxime gratuita, hay bastantes más posibilidades, es cierto.Iniciado por Starkiller Ren
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." «1984»
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Si se tenía. Mark Hamill ha afirmado publicamente que tuvo conocimiento del argumento primigenio de las precuelas a principios de los 80, de mano del propio Lucas.
Otra cosa es que los proyectos y las ideas cambien con el tiempo, como es natural. Y salir a decir "voy a hacer X", y luego tiempo despues decir, "voy a hacer Y" sobre el mismo asunto es perfectamente legitimo en este contexto, el artistico.
Por eso, vuelvo a decir, no considero que sea mentir. Ni en su caso ni en el de Gunn.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
@horner @StarKiller Ren este foro tiene la opción de insertar posts de Instagram?
I look upon my powers as a gift. Not mine alone, but for anyone who needs them.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
¿Polémicos? Estás aquí, en una diatriba absurda que no lleva a ninguna parte más allá de a un control de daños de primero de provocación, ¿y yo soy el que entra en temas polémicos? Y no te doy la razón, contextualizo la única parte de tu mensaje que es cierta.
Y Lucas siempre ha tenido el control en SW (hasta la venta), incluso en el episodio IV, confianza absoluta de Alan Ladd Jr mediante. Y siempre es siempre.
RIP, Sir Pratchett.
«En la primera reunión con él sobre el futuro de Star Wars, George se sintió traicionado» B. Iger.
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." «1984»