Tema: 2001: Una odisea del espacio (2001: A Space Odyssey, 1968, Stanley Kubrick)

Iniciado por Fried

Expectante por una buena comparativa en la que veamos ese casi confirmado cambio de color.

La pelicula se ha reestrenado hace unas semanas a lo grande en USA en su nuevo remasterizado. Se ha presentado por todo el pais en cientos de cines IMAX, en algunos como algo puntual, en otros como cualquier otra pelicula, pases diarios durante muchos dias.

Ha habido dos copias en el reestreno. Por un lado, el "unrestored" de Nolan (si no recuerdo, cuatro copias en total, repartidas en cuatro cines de primera fila), y el nuevo master 4K. El que parece que se incluira en el UHD. En los foros USA, los comentarios de la gente ANTES eran muy muy escepticos y criticos con lo que se ha visto en trailers y con el "unrestored" de Nolan.

Despues del estreno, el suspiro de alivio se ha escuchado hasta en l'Ametlla de Mar. El nuevo master es excelente, con una paleta perfecta, sin virado a nada y sin los defectos que Nolan ha dejado en su "unrestored", y la gente saliendo de los cines con una experiencia irrepetible en su memoria.

Por eso ahora el tema esta mucho mas calmado en esos foros. Y aunque aun hay que esperar a ver que hace Warner, personalmente soy muy optimista, y creo que el tema del virado al amarillo quedara en una anecdota que olvidaremos pronto.

Comentarios leidos en HighDefDigest:

bujaki: I just came back from a 2K screening in a real IMAX. Not since I saw 2001 during its premiere roadshow run in 1968 had I experienced it in such a spectacular fashion.

Peter Apruzzese: Absolutely spectacular. Other than the 70mm showing at the Uptown in DC back in 2001, this is the best presentation I've witnessed of the film. Finally finally finally the timing is correct during the Dawn of Man sequence - zero evidence of the Scotchlite screen, the skies were appropriately bright compared to the dingy look of it on the Blu. No source element damage anywhere else. Yes, there looked to be a few dupe shots, but nothing that called itself out. The sound was marvelous: directional dialogue aplenty and HAL appropriately diffused into the surrounds. The Stargate sequence had the place shaking. Just a fabulous show (other than "bozo know-no" errors with the improper handling of the lights during the overture and intermission) - highly recommended.

Se comenta algo sobre unas franjas rojas en algun momento, pero parece que lo que a primera vista se puede entender como un defecto, proviene del material original:

Ray H: Just got back from another IMAX screening today (my third and likely last). Honestly, I think the issues described (red fringing, halos, etc.) are all part of the original photography or baked into the OCN. I was looking out for the red fringing as you and others have described. And I saw them. I just got back, popped in the 2007 Blu-ray, and you know what? They're there too, in particular the scene that stood out is the conference scene on Clavius. Just harder to see on a 65 inch TV versus a 59 foot wide screen. Most of the issues I had with the IMAX presentation (thick halos around characters or scenes that looked like they were lacking in detail) are all present on the Blu-ray.

RAH si ha hablado de un defecto real, y es que hay dupes que no han sido restaurados adecuadamente. Una cosa estupida y sencilla para un restaurador, pero que parece que no se ha tratado en este caso, y parece que se nota. No restaurar los dupes (combinado de dos imagenes rodadas por separado y combinadas en un plano) recuperando los negativos originales de cada uno, supone que en esos momentos la calidad de imagen es menor que en el resto.

RAH: What this is telling us, is that the film was not properly restored.
As a simple comparison, I invite viewers to examine My Fair Lady... and identify the dupes.
It appears that someone neglected to return to the separation masters, and scan and recomp the dupes, in the digital domain.
This is done in any serious film restoration, and as I’ve noted from the beginning, 2001 is a simple, textbook restorative effort. There’s no heavy lifting here.
It’s impossible, that anyone with a serious understanding of restoration, would allow this.
Unless, this is a digital non-restoration, in which case it’s fine, and this is not marketed as a restoration.
That would be a pity, but they’re different concepts, and work strategies, entirely.
I was presuming a restoration. But I’ve been wrong before.