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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
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My first impressions are one of amazement. No edge, super clean, dynamic, but looks to be low on the bit rate. However, how's the whole disc look?
The movie is split into chapters, which is nice, reminds me of a Quentin Tarantino movie. Chapter One is the best looking of all the chapters. It does have minor bit-rate issues, but for the most part, it's extremely good. However, there are 2 shots with edge enhancement, I assume that this was done back in the day with really poor cameras. They are really poor quality film shots, film dupes? I'm not sure, but they look really bad. A couple of the chapter screens also have an edgy look in the fonts. There are also a couple of shots with ringing in them, but that's it. Apart from those little things, the disc is basically flawless, regarding edge enhancement and ringing. It's excellent.
The biggest thing for me is film quality consistent. I typically say film grain consistency, which is also an issue, but this about the quality of the original film. Like I've said, chapter 1 is very good and quite consistent. The later chapters are much poorer in film quality. 3rd or 4th generation film? Dupes? I'm not sure, but the difference between shots is something I really dislike, and it is heavy in this movie.
The movie also has very heavy film grain, and this requires much more bit-rate to encode and still get very good quality with. IMO, the bit-rate is too low for film grain this heavy. This movie needs an average bit-rate of 90+ Mbps, unfortunately, it got 50 to 60 Mbps. This is a 100 GB disc, so for me, there's no excuse for the bit-rate being this low. They could have got bit-rates much higher and should have been. You can't have film grain this heavy and only set the average bit-rate to 55 Mbps, that can't happen IMO. Film grain does turn into noise on many shots, especially those with heavy and blurry film grain. I'm a bit disappointed with this. The film quality I can accept because it's an old movie, but the bit-rate being too low? That's a decision that's been made in 2021, why is it this low? I'm going to try and contact Universal Studios about this because apart from this they did everything right. I think it's a little bit of a shame TBH.
With all that said, the shots that look good, which are many look incredible. Quite a few shots made my jaw drop, with great color and brightness.
Overall? At times it is a great-looking movie but suffers from consistency issues that I can't ignore. The bit-rate is too low for film grain this heavy, the encoders should have known that.
It's a great movie and I still recommend it even with all its consistency issues. It's quite simply a classic movie that has never looked better.
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Sí pero no.
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
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My first impressions are one of amazement. No edge, super clean, dynamic, but looks to be low on the bit rate. However, how's the whole disc look?
The movie is split into chapters, which is nice, reminds me of a Quentin Tarantino movie. Chapter One is the best looking of all the chapters. It does have minor bit-rate issues, but for the most part, it's extremely good. However, there are 2 shots with edge enhancement, I assume that this was done back in the day with really poor cameras. They are really poor quality film shots, film dupes? I'm not sure, but they look really bad. A couple of the chapter screens also have an edgy look in the fonts. There are also a couple of shots with ringing in them, but that's it. Apart from those little things, the disc is basically flawless, regarding edge enhancement and ringing. It's excellent.
The biggest thing for me is film quality consistent. I typically say film grain consistency, which is also an issue, but this about the quality of the original film. Like I've said, chapter 1 is very good and quite consistent. The later chapters are much poorer in film quality. 3rd or 4th generation film? Dupes? I'm not sure, but the difference between shots is something I really dislike, and it is heavy in this movie.
The movie also has very heavy film grain, and this requires much more bit-rate to encode and still get very good quality with. IMO, the bit-rate is too low for film grain this heavy. This movie needs an average bit-rate of 90+ Mbps, unfortunately, it got 50 to 60 Mbps. This is a 100 GB disc, so for me, there's no excuse for the bit-rate being this low. They could have got bit-rates much higher and should have been. You can't have film grain this heavy and only set the average bit-rate to 55 Mbps, that can't happen IMO. Film grain does turn into noise on many shots, especially those with heavy and blurry film grain. I'm a bit disappointed with this. The film quality I can accept because it's an old movie, but the bit-rate being too low? That's a decision that's been made in 2021, why is it this low? I'm going to try and contact Universal Studios about this because apart from this they did everything right. I think it's a little bit of a shame TBH.
With all that said, the shots that look good, which are many look incredible. Quite a few shots made my jaw drop, with great color and brightness.
Overall? At times it is a great-looking movie but suffers from consistency issues that I can't ignore. The bit-rate is too low for film grain this heavy, the encoders should have known that.
It's a great movie and I still recommend it even with all its consistency issues. It's quite simply a classic movie that has never looked better.
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Sí pero no.
No sé a qué motivo responde la falta de bitrate, si tienen espacio de sobra. Este comportamiento de dejadez es imperdonable, y más con esta joya de película.
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Acabo de meter el disco al PC y son 90Gb, 80 se los lleva la película, desde luego mucho espacio no se han dejado.
Lleva 7 audios, un 5.1 dts hd, dos 5.1 dts y 4 stereo dts.
A falta de pasarle un bdinfo y ver las cifras, mucho más margen no parecía haber.
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
Pues a ver si alguien la ve un situ y da su opinión no vaya ser que no merezca la pena,el blu ray bajo mi humilde opinión se veía muy bien.
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
Vista anoche a mí no me ha convencido. No me gusta como le sienta el HDR, le resta naturalidad.
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
pues que bien, pero claro ya sabemos como va esto veremos mas opiniones jeje
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
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Acabo de meter el disco al PC y son 90Gb, 80 se los lleva la película, desde luego mucho espacio no se han dejado.
Lleva 7 audios, un 5.1 dts hd, dos 5.1 dts y 4 stereo dts.
A falta de pasarle un bdinfo y ver las cifras, mucho más margen no parecía haber.
Ya pero ese señor americanito Mr. Capitán América se estará quejando de que hayan destinado mucho espacio a otros audios.
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Ya pero ese señor americanito Mr. Capitán América se estará quejando de que hayan destinado mucho espacio a otros audios.
Yo es que hablando de una cuestión tan técnica pues no he visto datos.
Bien, echas de menos bitrate, dinos cuanto tiene y cuanto crees que debería tener para que se vea "mejor".
Yo aún no he podido verla, lo dejo para el finde, pero vamos, el disco va hasta prácticamente las trancas.
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Re: El golpe (The Sting, 1974, George Roy Hill)
La mía ya en camino.. Vía Amazon!!!
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A mi me ha llegado esta mediodía de Amazon y por suerte, sin ningún rasguño:cuniao
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Es increíble la calidad de restauración, parece de película actual. Imagen de referencia del formato.
Nunca había visto esta película y la vi junto con un amigo y nos ha parecido muy refrescante y única, creo que sobrevivirá el paso del tiempo si las nuevas generaciones dan con esta película.
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Es increíble la calidad de restauración, parece de película actual. Imagen de referencia del formato.
Nunca había visto esta película y la vi junto con un amigo y nos ha parecido muy refrescante y única, creo que sobrevivirá el paso del tiempo si las nuevas generaciones dan con esta película.
nunca habías visto el golpe?
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nunca habías visto el golpe?
No. Gran parte del cine "comercial" "clásico" no lo he visto. Siempre me ha tirado más la serie B y la carne de videoclub.
Y nunca he visto "Star Wars" ni "Regreso al futuro".
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No. Gran parte del cine "comercial" "clásico" no lo he visto. Siempre me ha tirado más la serie B y la carne de videoclub.
Y nunca he visto "Star Wars" ni "Regreso al futuro".
pues es una maravillosa pelicula, con un gran reparto, ya el bluray no se veía mal el problema es que le pasaron el dnr. por cierto el antiguo digibook es precioso y trae info muy valiosa, para mi uno de los digibook más útiles que he tenido en cuanto a contenido.
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Es increíble la calidad de restauración, parece de película actual. Imagen de referencia del formato.
Nunca había visto esta película y la vi junto con un amigo y nos ha parecido muy refrescante y única, creo que sobrevivirá el paso del tiempo si las nuevas generaciones dan con esta película.
Es un "puto" peliculón. Un clásico imperecedero. Un top 10 personal.
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Es increíble la calidad de restauración, parece de película actual. Imagen de referencia del formato.
Nunca había visto esta película y la vi junto con un amigo y nos ha parecido muy refrescante y única, creo que sobrevivirá el paso del tiempo si las nuevas generaciones dan con esta película.
La película que he visto más veces. Desde la primera vez que la vi (cuando se estrenó en cines) se convirtió en mi película favorita.
Pasados los años se mantiene entre las cinco elegidas. Ansioso estoy por verla con esta calidad.
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No. Gran parte del cine "comercial" "clásico" no lo he visto. Siempre me ha tirado más la serie B y la carne de videoclub.
Y nunca he visto "Star Wars" ni "Regreso al futuro".
Incluso sin guiarte a esos ejemplos tan comerciales (pero excelentes) tienes la suerte de tener tantas joyas por descubrir... así de primeras, te invito a que disfrutes de la otra película con la que El golpe comparte director y protagonistas, "Dos hombres y un destino".
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Yo tampoco he visto esta peli (entre muchas otras, lo que tiene la juventud) pero me la apunto.