John Wick (Chad Stahelski, 2014) y secuelas

**Cazafantasmas** · 07/11/2019 17:34

Iniciado por Conrado77

BDInfo del UHD UK (misma edición que USA):

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     John Wick 3: Parabellum - Ultra HD Blu-ray™
Disc Label:     JOHN_WICK_3_PARABELLUM
Disc Size:      93,824,328,927 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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BDInfo del BD UK que acompaña al UHD UK:

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     John Wick 3: Parabellum - Blu-ray™
Disc Label:     JOHN_WICK_3_PARABELLUM - BD
Disc Size:      47,855,959,742 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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Y ya puestos, BDInfo del BD español de eOne:

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum
Disc Label:     JOHN WICK 3 - eOne
Disc Size:      43,341,083,080 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

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MPEG-4 AVC Video        21988 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

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DTS-HD Master Audio             Spanish         2108 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2108 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         4652 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  4012 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB)

SUBTITLES:

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1               0:00:00.000     0:08:45.858     23,649 kbps     35,944 kbps     00:01:27.670    33,137 kbps     00:01:14.824    32,779 kbps     00:04:06.120    123,284 bytes   377,188 bytes   00:01:20.455    
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3               0:14:05.761     0:08:33.638     23,644 kbps     34,263 kbps     00:14:23.904    32,167 kbps     00:18:48.001    31,687 kbps     00:18:41.537    123,269 bytes   366,027 bytes   00:15:09.950    
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PD: los BDInfo(s) que cuelgo no son sacados de Internet. Son de mis discos comprados pasados por el ordenador.

Pregunta ese Spanish es castellano o latino??

**Venom** · 07/11/2019 17:48

Un 7.1 con eone
Ahora con sonic 5.1
Esto es lo que tiene de la constante despotricacion de EONE.

**ryder** · 07/11/2019 18:18

Iniciado por Venom

Un 7.1 con eone
Ahora con sonic 5.1
Esto es lo que tiene de la constante despotricacion de EONE.

jajajajaja claro, han involucionado en audio por culpa de nosotros... maldita sonic y sus 5.1! Con lo bien que ha trabajado siempre eone...

PD. Tenemos lo que nos merecemos...

**Lobram** · 07/11/2019 18:40

Iniciado por ryder

jajajajaja claro, han involucionado en audio por culpa de nosotros... maldita sonic y sus 5.1! Con lo bien que ha trabajado siempre eone...

PD. Tenemos lo que nos merecemos...

Es que sonic no hace una edición buena. Menudas chapuzas todos sus UHDs.

**Venom** · 07/11/2019 18:51

No lo habéis pillado.
Si hubiera seguido distribuyendo EONE tendríamos un 7.1.

**ryder** · 07/11/2019 19:28

Iniciado por Venom

No lo habéis pillado.
Si hubiera seguido distribuyendo EONE tendríamos un 7.1.

Lo hemos pillado... "es lo que tiene de la constante despotricacion de EONE."

**willrock66** · 07/11/2019 21:24

Yo no es que esté a favor de eOne. Ya he sufrido unas cuantas. Pero lo que no entiendo es que Sony con los pedazos de UHD en cuanto a calidad de vídeo que edita, no sé por qué el audio en castellano lo saca tan pobre (en los UHD y no en los blurays que acompañan el combo).

**Carlosvky** · 07/11/2019 23:51

Iniciado por Venom

Un 7.1 con eone
Ahora con sonic 5.1
Esto es lo que tiene de la constante despotricacion de EONE.

Si me das ha escoger entre un audio 7.1 (poca gente tiene esa configuración de equipo) sin DOLBY VISION (Eone siempre se le olvidaba añadir esos metadatos) y un audio 5.1 con DOLBY VISION, ni te contesto con lo que me quedo.

Saludos

Anonimo16032020 · 08/11/2019 00:04

Iniciado por Carlosvky

Si me das ha escoger entre un audio 7.1 (poca gente tiene esa configuración de equipo) sin DOLBY VISION (Eone siempre se le olvidaba añadir esos metadatos) y un audio 5.1 con DOLBY VISION, ni te contesto con lo que me quedo.

Saludos

Creo que el problema es que la gente piensa que debe escoger, y lo que debe es exigir tener la mejor imagen y el mejor sonido, que para eso pagamos como los que disfrutan de Atmos.

**ryder** · 08/11/2019 00:56

Iniciado por fjavier_gr

Creo que el problema es que la gente piensa que debe escoger, y lo que debe es exigir tener la mejor imagen y el mejor sonido, que para eso pagamos como los que disfrutan de Atmos.

Tal cual, ni más ni menos. Una buena edición es la que viene bien de sonido (VO y doblada) y video, como por ejemplo lo que hace AC o reel one en formato BD.

Iniciado por willrock66

Hombre, comparado con la Warner, por supuesto que mejor. Pero me da rabia ver en el bluray Sony saca muy buen audio en castellano y en el UHD lo rebaja. Sobre Paramount me contenta porque saca muchas cosas con Dolby Vision.

Los casos que comentas con mejor audio en bd que en 4k son sangrantes, cierto. Entiendo el porqué lo hacen, pero no tiene justificación. Aunque también hay que decir que muchos discos suyos están a la altura tanto en audio como en video.

**Conrado77** · 09/11/2019 02:20

Iniciado por Cazafantasmas

Pregunta ese Spanish es castellano o latino??

Es latino. Por eso compré el BD español también (para tener la pista de castellano).

En cuanto a la próxima edición en UHD de eOne, para mí llega tarde (hasta ahora no se habían pronunciado). Y dudo que sea mejor que la de Lionsgate (BD-100). Aunque a lo mejor sorprenden y meten un BD-100.

**Cazafantasmas** · 10/11/2019 01:55

Iniciado por Conrado77

Es latino. Por eso compré el BD español también (para tener la pista de castellano).

En cuanto a la próxima edición en UHD de eOne, para mí llega tarde (hasta ahora no se habían pronunciado). Y dudo que sea mejor que la de Lionsgate (BD-100). Aunque a lo mejor sorprenden y meten un BD-100.

No se, viniendo de sony España, me esperó cualquier cosa

Anonimo16032020 · 11/11/2019 19:52

Contraportada del UHD con todas las características para España:

**Conrado77** · 11/11/2019 23:00

Hoy he recibido la edición UHD de USA de John Wick 2. Vamos a comparar el BDInfo del UHD con el de la edición española de eOne:

- UHD USA:

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     John Wick: Chapter 2 - Ultra HD Blu-ray™
Disc Label:     JOHN_WICK_CHAPTER_2
Disc Size:      94,922,153,010 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:02:23.252 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   82,864,290,048 bytes
Total Bitrate:          90.28 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       77946 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         5242 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  4602 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         448 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   448 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   224 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         12.515 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         16.592 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         13.347 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.713 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:02:23.252     82,864,290,048  90,274          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:31.682     79,562 kbps     128,098 kbps    00:01:49.067    97,889 kbps     00:01:48.399    94,922 kbps     00:04:06.537    0 bytes         1,208,915 bytes 00:05:14.480    
2               0:06:31.682     0:10:26.250     77,520 kbps     117,414 kbps    00:08:37.391    98,745 kbps     00:07:32.869    95,484 kbps     00:10:01.809    0 bytes         1,235,854 bytes 00:09:20.560    
3               0:16:57.933     0:09:37.660     85,820 kbps     122,074 kbps    00:18:39.451    98,621 kbps     00:24:44.816    94,980 kbps     00:24:44.774    0 bytes         1,470,739 bytes 00:25:33.281    
4               0:26:35.594     0:08:02.440     71,719 kbps     114,702 kbps    00:27:55.465    96,236 kbps     00:34:28.983    93,796 kbps     00:32:37.872    0 bytes         1,309,373 bytes 00:31:40.481    
5               0:34:38.034     0:07:29.782     72,673 kbps     113,514 kbps    00:40:40.396    97,891 kbps     00:41:31.155    93,769 kbps     00:40:40.229    0 bytes         1,133,734 bytes 00:38:45.072    
6               0:42:07.816     0:05:59.233     86,644 kbps     115,852 kbps    00:44:45.265    98,315 kbps     00:44:41.261    95,106 kbps     00:42:35.553    0 bytes         1,351,574 bytes 00:44:02.389    
7               0:48:07.050     0:08:34.597     81,610 kbps     118,505 kbps    00:55:05.760    97,471 kbps     00:52:22.597    95,655 kbps     00:50:48.420    0 bytes         1,288,920 bytes 00:56:41.564    
8               0:56:41.648     0:05:01.134     77,924 kbps     108,588 kbps    00:56:42.398    96,334 kbps     01:00:42.722    95,243 kbps     01:00:42.722    0 bytes         1,286,651 bytes 01:01:42.698    
9               1:01:42.782     0:08:44.899     77,785 kbps     120,081 kbps    01:04:04.048    97,304 kbps     01:03:53.621    94,189 kbps     01:08:45.496    0 bytes         1,424,212 bytes 01:04:19.272    
10              1:10:27.681     0:06:48.241     85,061 kbps     123,761 kbps    01:10:46.492    98,198 kbps     01:12:00.399    96,038 kbps     01:16:42.472    0 bytes         1,352,211 bytes 01:15:53.674    
11              1:17:15.922     0:07:06.717     80,314 kbps     116,401 kbps    01:24:01.453    98,728 kbps     01:23:16.658    94,606 kbps     01:23:16.658    0 bytes         1,389,133 bytes 01:17:52.209    
12              1:24:22.640     0:07:48.593     70,716 kbps     115,416 kbps    01:31:43.206    98,324 kbps     01:31:42.663    93,092 kbps     01:24:41.326    0 bytes         1,271,132 bytes 01:28:41.649    
13              1:32:11.234     0:07:50.094     78,884 kbps     127,293 kbps    01:38:08.549    99,496 kbps     01:38:05.337    94,755 kbps     01:35:07.159    0 bytes         1,266,065 bytes 01:38:08.591    
14              1:40:01.328     0:06:33.434     79,459 kbps     131,538 kbps    01:43:27.951    97,753 kbps     01:42:43.532    94,631 kbps     01:42:42.656    0 bytes         1,269,094 bytes 01:40:40.868    
15              1:46:34.763     0:07:26.279     91,947 kbps     115,112 kbps    01:53:35.225    97,986 kbps     01:53:35.391    95,074 kbps     01:52:54.142    0 bytes         1,610,277 bytes 01:53:03.902    
16              1:54:01.042     0:08:21.209     53,641 kbps     107,257 kbps    01:54:17.058    96,942 kbps     01:55:05.315    94,389 kbps     01:55:00.018    0 bytes         1,575,352 bytes 01:54:08.967    
17              2:02:22.251     0:00:01.001     48 kbps         0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         294 bytes       02:02:23.210

- UHD España:

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Label:     John Wick 2
Disc Size:      62,059,601,888 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:02:21.334 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   61,673,660,544 bytes
Total Bitrate:          67.21 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       54943 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             Spanish         2737 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  2737 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         5251 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  4611 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         13.720 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         17.535 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         0.656 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00000.M2TS      0:00:00.000     2:02:21.334     61,673,660,544  67,206          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:32.683     63,341 kbps     95,319 kbps     00:02:28.273    84,325 kbps     00:01:48.483    82,034 kbps     00:00:33.867    0 bytes         980,647 bytes   00:05:05.054    
2               0:06:32.683     0:10:26.250     60,549 kbps     96,819 kbps     00:13:27.848    85,145 kbps     00:10:41.349    82,325 kbps     00:13:39.193    0 bytes         1,320,062 bytes 00:11:51.544    
3               0:16:58.934     0:09:37.660     52,686 kbps     93,700 kbps     00:25:32.239    79,220 kbps     00:25:32.239    75,597 kbps     00:16:58.934    0 bytes         1,222,693 bytes 00:16:59.727    
4               0:26:36.594     0:08:02.440     47,791 kbps     88,341 kbps     00:26:46.521    78,211 kbps     00:26:44.477    68,685 kbps     00:26:40.473    0 bytes         1,244,574 bytes 00:28:51.396    
5               0:34:39.035     0:07:29.782     51,735 kbps     88,688 kbps     00:36:40.990    84,910 kbps     00:36:36.569    74,942 kbps     00:36:35.026    0 bytes         1,049,043 bytes 00:36:43.034    
6               0:42:08.817     0:05:59.233     53,498 kbps     86,771 kbps     00:44:08.729    80,847 kbps     00:42:57.575    80,019 kbps     00:42:56.407    0 bytes         1,276,595 bytes 00:46:55.103    
7               0:48:08.051     0:08:34.597     54,480 kbps     102,828 kbps    00:55:37.959    86,214 kbps     00:56:15.747    83,331 kbps     00:56:10.075    0 bytes         1,160,837 bytes 00:55:38.668    
8               0:56:42.649     0:05:01.134     49,953 kbps     79,232 kbps     00:56:45.193    71,910 kbps     00:56:42.982    62,969 kbps     00:56:42.649    0 bytes         862,465 bytes   01:01:07.789    
9               1:01:43.783     0:08:44.899     52,561 kbps     85,015 kbps     01:03:47.281    73,004 kbps     01:03:13.164    70,743 kbps     01:01:50.206    0 bytes         1,045,270 bytes 01:04:38.499    
10              1:10:28.682     0:06:48.241     57,515 kbps     98,813 kbps     01:15:11.173    78,682 kbps     01:17:04.953    76,900 kbps     01:17:02.617    0 bytes         1,521,687 bytes 01:11:10.516    
11              1:17:16.923     0:07:06.717     55,618 kbps     89,177 kbps     01:24:01.202    82,014 kbps     01:23:23.873    77,444 kbps     01:23:18.827    0 bytes         1,157,230 bytes 01:24:06.624    
12              1:24:23.641     0:07:48.593     55,203 kbps     89,750 kbps     01:25:55.108    83,272 kbps     01:25:55.108    72,887 kbps     01:31:11.007    0 bytes         1,158,560 bytes 01:31:11.048    
13              1:32:12.235     0:07:50.094     64,797 kbps     101,697 kbps    01:38:55.804    87,944 kbps     01:38:34.700    84,413 kbps     01:38:34.700    0 bytes         1,370,856 bytes 01:38:40.205    
14              1:40:02.329     0:06:33.434     63,831 kbps     97,183 kbps     01:41:51.772    85,101 kbps     01:41:47.935    80,553 kbps     01:41:01.221    0 bytes         986,906 bytes   01:41:48.769    
15              1:46:35.764     0:07:26.279     50,524 kbps     83,802 kbps     01:53:09.073    67,344 kbps     01:49:03.537    61,894 kbps     01:53:02.692    0 bytes         1,129,857 bytes 01:51:09.996    
16              1:54:02.043     0:08:19.290     45,509 kbps     75,322 kbps     01:58:26.057    68,012 kbps     01:57:46.517    67,103 kbps     01:58:17.298    0 bytes         975,102 bytes   01:55:04.397

El UHD de USA emplea un BD-100, mientras que el español de eOne viene en BD-66. Ello revierte en el bitrate empleado, tal como me comentó el compañero cesarleeds: 77946 kbps para el de USA; 54943 kbps para el de España. La diferencia es muy grande.

Adjunto también el BDInfo del BD de USA (el que acompaña al UHD):

Código:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     John Wick Chapter 2 - Blu-ray™
Disc Label:     JOHN_WICK_CHAPTER_2
Disc Size:      49,883,174,817 bytes
Protection:     AACS
Extras:         BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00440.MPLS
Length:                 2:02:22.376 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   36,369,334,272 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39.63 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29500 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         5863 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  5223 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   224 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             Spanish         640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   192 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio             English         224 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   224 kbps / DN -31dB / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         12.053 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         15.963 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         12.880 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00502.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:04:02.784     1,313,114,112   43,269          
00508.M2TS      0:04:02.784     0:00:20.812     108,447,744     41,686          
00501.M2TS      0:04:23.596     0:00:37.203     188,921,856     40,624          
00514.M2TS      0:05:00.800     0:00:50.759     257,538,048     40,590          
00506.M2TS      0:05:51.559     0:23:01.046     7,091,914,752   41,081          
00503.M2TS      0:28:52.605     0:00:31.031     168,947,712     43,556          
00505.M2TS      0:29:23.636     0:00:26.609     146,399,232     44,013          
00515.M2TS      0:29:50.246     0:01:56.658     607,383,552     41,652          
00513.M2TS      0:31:46.904     0:00:25.567     124,692,480     39,016          
00512.M2TS      0:32:12.472     0:20:22.179     5,955,219,456   38,981          
00504.M2TS      0:52:34.651     0:00:31.906     165,562,368     41,511          
00507.M2TS      0:53:06.558     0:00:53.595     267,964,416     39,998          
00511.M2TS      0:54:00.153     1:08:22.223     19,973,228,544  38,951          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:06:31.682     31,924 kbps     41,367 kbps     00:01:38.139    36,957 kbps     00:00:45.795    36,607 kbps     00:03:47.560    166,419 bytes   492,893 bytes   00:00:00.000    
2               0:06:31.682     0:10:26.250     31,937 kbps     39,794 kbps     00:08:50.446    36,781 kbps     00:10:29.170    36,507 kbps     00:10:28.169    166,506 bytes   573,465 bytes   00:11:54.213    
3               0:16:57.933     0:09:37.660     29,464 kbps     38,534 kbps     00:24:43.523    36,832 kbps     00:17:04.064    36,502 kbps     00:25:07.672    153,613 bytes   555,074 bytes   00:16:59.810    
4               0:26:35.593     0:08:02.440     32,009 kbps     39,029 kbps     00:26:47.480    37,009 kbps     00:28:55.567    36,626 kbps     00:28:50.854    166,883 bytes   573,775 bytes   00:28:54.607    
5               0:34:38.034     0:07:29.782     28,952 kbps     38,308 kbps     00:36:42.408    36,504 kbps     00:36:30.855    35,926 kbps     00:36:30.855    150,944 bytes   534,570 bytes   00:36:33.232    
6               0:42:07.816     0:05:59.233     28,273 kbps     38,865 kbps     00:45:44.491    36,727 kbps     00:43:59.595    36,385 kbps     00:42:57.574    147,402 bytes   483,930 bytes   00:46:57.356    
7               0:48:07.050     0:08:34.597     30,714 kbps     38,836 kbps     00:56:16.831    36,759 kbps     00:51:46.436    36,533 kbps     00:51:46.436    160,128 bytes   406,466 bytes   00:48:21.773    
8               0:56:41.648     0:05:01.134     25,367 kbps     38,003 kbps     00:56:41.856    36,474 kbps     01:01:26.390    35,534 kbps     01:01:24.722    132,251 bytes   449,547 bytes   01:01:32.063    
9               1:01:42.782     0:08:44.899     28,237 kbps     38,398 kbps     01:04:20.106    36,584 kbps     01:01:55.336    36,408 kbps     01:01:50.331    147,216 bytes   483,717 bytes   01:03:14.916    
10              1:10:27.681     0:06:48.241     31,027 kbps     38,384 kbps     01:16:45.600    36,656 kbps     01:11:31.495    36,443 kbps     01:11:26.824    161,760 bytes   604,896 bytes   01:11:11.600    
11              1:17:15.922     0:07:06.717     34,206 kbps     38,977 kbps     01:23:59.492    36,906 kbps     01:24:07.083    36,604 kbps     01:23:17.742    178,336 bytes   532,672 bytes   01:24:00.368    
12              1:24:22.640     0:07:48.593     31,149 kbps     38,405 kbps     01:25:38.883    36,753 kbps     01:25:34.879    36,566 kbps     01:28:06.114    162,396 bytes   564,339 bytes   01:29:32.074    
13              1:32:11.233     0:07:50.094     34,578 kbps     40,155 kbps     01:38:29.028    36,962 kbps     01:38:36.493    36,675 kbps     01:38:31.530    180,273 bytes   536,512 bytes   01:39:07.274    
14              1:40:01.328     0:06:33.434     32,246 kbps     39,383 kbps     01:41:20.157    36,901 kbps     01:43:10.892    36,620 kbps     01:41:00.220    168,118 bytes   498,849 bytes   01:41:09.438    
15              1:46:34.763     0:07:26.279     27,354 kbps     38,216 kbps     01:51:32.685    36,912 kbps     01:53:47.570    36,256 kbps     01:53:06.696    142,609 bytes   557,897 bytes   01:51:11.581    
16              1:54:01.042     0:08:21.334     14,317 kbps     38,508 kbps     01:54:08.758    36,881 kbps     01:54:04.963    36,551 kbps     01:55:07.233    74,657 bytes    559,959 bytes   01:54:05.046

El BD de USA está completamente lleno (49,88GB). Un poco más y tienen que empezar a quemar por la zona exterior del borde de plástico.

¡Hay que ver lo bien que han aprovechado el disco!

El BD de eOne también es un BD-50.

A ver lo que hace eOne España con el UHD de John Wick 3. El de USA vuelve a ser un BD-100.

Anonimo16032020 · 11/11/2019 23:14

¿Según esos datos el UHD de España viene con 7.1?
La contraportada pone que era 5.1 😮

**Conrado77** · 12/11/2019 00:21

Iniciado por fjavier_gr

¿Según esos datos el UHD de España viene con 7.1?
La contraportada pone que era 5.1 ��

La contraportada de la edición española de eOne pone 7.1. Fíjate bien. Tanto en el UHD como en el BD. Hablamos de John Wick 2.

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