Campa, a mí con Google Chrome si me lo reproduce. Ahora bien, esta web recomprime bastante los archivos y se pierde mucha calidad, me acabo de dar cuenta.... Disculpad.
Campa, a mí con Google Chrome si me lo reproduce. Ahora bien, esta web recomprime bastante los archivos y se pierde mucha calidad, me acabo de dar cuenta.... Disculpad.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"El único modo de ser feliz es amando. Si no sabes amar, tu vida pasará como un destello" - The Tree of Life
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
No sé que respuesta me da más miedo. Si que lo descartas porque Moore no te gusta o lo descartas porque Moore es un autor denso que requiere paciencia y tiempo y para reelertelo deprisa y mal mejor no hacerlo de momento.![]()
¿Pero el film lo tienes a mano?. Lo digo por encuadrar la reseña en el futuro cercano o no...
Ya me callo, es la confianza.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Moore me gusta y he leído más de una vez V de Vendetta. Como bien dices, Moore se merece una lectura sosegada así, que por ahora mejor no lo releo (además que tengo en la mesilla Sandman. Preludio)
El film lo tengo en DVD, en una bonita edición metálica que sacaron. A ver si me pongo a ello cuanto antes.
Saludos
Última edición por Tripley; 06/02/2019 a las 00:52
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Nueva propuesta:
https://clyp.it/hdq5352f
Puede que sea algo muy rebuscado (aunque seguro que es una película que hemos visto casi todos), pero quiero destacar este momento del film donde esta música (una versión) creo que juega un papel primordial.
Saludos
Última edición por Tripley; 06/02/2019 a las 01:01
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Tengo la edición de Norma (de 2002).
Saludos
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
A pesar de todo el rollo fantasmesco, no he visto la película -dicen que muy mala en comparación con la historieta original- ni he leído el cómic.
Pues yo creo que no la he visto. Y me suena a un híbrido raro de Camela y Mike Oldfield (no me matéis, por favor
).
Última edición por Jane Olsen; 06/02/2019 a las 20:15
"People believe my folderol because I wear a turban and a black tuxedo [...] We're in show biz! It's all about razzle-dazzle. Appearances. If you dress nice and talk well, people will swallow anything."
"Waving the flag with one hand and picking pockets with the other: that's your patriotism. Well, you can have it." Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious.
"Listen to them... Children of the night! What music they make..!"
Pues hombre, con Camela puede darse el paralelismo de que en la película hay un trío protagonista, dos chicos y una chica (y uno de ellos da nombre, parcial (y en el título original) a la película.
Saludos
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Pues te lo recomiendo mucho, Jane. V, digo. Diría que puede gustarte. Está soberbiamente bien escrito, cómo todo lo de Moore y los personajes no son maniqueos, tienen todos capas y gamas de grises. Eso si, te adelanto que es negro, negro, negro, y que de final feliz y/o relación romántica nada de nada. Solo advertirte de que no vayas con la idea preconcebida de que por ser un cómic es lectura ligera, ya que entonces puede decepcionarte.
Te dejo por aquí los prólogo de Moore (guión), y Lloyd (dibujo), tan relevantes hoy cómo en su día y que me sigue poniendo los pelos de punta.
Lloyd:
Hace algunas noches, de camino a casa, entré en un pub y pedí una Guinnes.
No miré el reloj, pero sabía que aún no eran las ocho en punto. Era martes y de fondo podía oír la televisión, que emitía el último episodio de Eastenders, un culebrón sobre el día a día de la desvergonzada y alegre clase obrera de una zona mítica y decadente de Londres.
Me senté en un banco y cogí una copia de un periódico gratuito que alguien había dejado en el asiento de al lado. Ya lo había leído antes. No tenía muchas noticias. Dejé el periódico y decidí sentarme en la barra.
Esa noche no había mucha actividad. A lo lejos podía oírse el murmullo del televisor por encima de la charla de la gente del bar y el sonido de las bolas de billar chocando entre ellas.
Después de Eastenders empezó Porridge, la reposición de una comedia de situación acerca de un desvergonzado y alegre prisionero en una cómoda, decadente y nada opresiva prisión victoriana.
Tras la barra, de un modo casi imperceptible, desde las botellas situadas hacia abajo los licores goteaban. Contemplé como las gotas de whiskey y vodka se unían en su silenciosa caída.
Acabé mi bebida. Levanté la mirada y el camarero me la devolvió, “¿Una Guinnes?”, preguntó, mientras iba ya a por otro vaso helado. Moví la cabeza en señal de afirmación.
La mujer del camarero llegó y comenzó a ayudar con los pedidos de los clientes.
A las 20:30, después de Porridge, empezó A question of Sport, un sencillo concurso con un panel de preguntas con famosos deportistas desvergonzados y alegres que respondían a preguntas sobre otros famosos deportistas tan desvergonzados y alegres como ellos…
La jovialidad reinaba.
“Le diré al barman que las botellas gotean”, pensé.
Las noticias de las nueve siguieron a A question of Sport, al menos durante 40 segundos hasta que apagaron la televisión y una alegre y desvergonzada música pop ocupó su lugar.
Miré de nuevo al barman. “Sólo la mitad esta vez”, le dije.
Mientras me llenaba el vaso, le pregunté con solemnidad por qué habían apagado las noticias. “A mí no me pregunte, ha sido mi señora”, replicó de un modo alegre y desvergonzado, mientras el objeto de sus bromas trajinaba en un rincón del bar.
El goteo de las botellas dejó de importarme.
Acabé mi cerveza y me fui, casi seguro de que la televisión permanecería en silencio el resto de la noche, ya que después de las noticias de las nueve se emitía Los niños del Brasil, una película con muy pocos personajes alegres y desvergonzados en la que un grupo de nazis crea 94 clones de Adolf Hitler.
Tampoco hay muchos personajes alegres y desvergonzados en V DE VENDETTA, que es para las personas que no apagan las noticias.
Moore (No lo he encontrado en castellano, lo siento mucho, pero sé que los habituales de este hilo os defendeis con el inglés)
I began V For Vendetta in the summer of 1981, during a working holiday upon the Isle of Wight.
My youngest daughter, Amber, was a few months old. I finished it in the late winter of 1988, after a gap in publishing of nearly five years from discontinuation of England’s Warrior magazine, its initial home. Amber is now seven. I don’t know why I mentioned that. It’s just one of those unremarkable facts that strike you suddenly, with unexpected force, so that you have to go and sit down.
Along with Marvelman (now Miracleman), V For Vendetta represents my first attempt at a continuing series, begun at the outset of my career. For this reason, amongst others, there are things that ring oddly in earlier episodes when judged in the light of the strip’s later development. I trust you’ll bear with us during any initial clumsiness, and share our opinion that it was for the best to show the early episodes unrevised, warts and all, rather than go back and eradicate all trace of youthful creative inexperience.
There is also a certain amount of political inexperience upon my part evident in these early episodes. Back in 1981 the term “nuclear winter” had not passed into common currency, and although my guess about climatic upheaval came pretty close to the eventual truth of the situation, the fact remains that the story to hand suggests that a nuclear war, even a limited one, might be survivable. To the best of my current knowledge, this is not the case.
Naivete can also be detected in my supposition that it would take something as melodramatic as a near-miss nuclear conflict to nudge England toward fascism. Although in fairness to myself and David, there were no better or more accurate predictions of our country’s future available in comic form at that time. The simple fact that much of the historical background of the story proceeds from a predicted Conservative defeat in the 1982 General Election should tell you how reliable we were in our role as Cassandras.
It’s 1988 now. Margaret Thatcher is entering her third term of office and talking confidently of an unbroken Conservative leadership well into the next century. My youngest daughter is seven and the tabloid press are circulating the idea of concentration camps for persons with AIDS. The new riot police wear black visors, as do their horses, and their vans have rotating video cameras mounted on top.
The government has expressed a desire to eradicate homosexuality, even as an abstract concept, and one can only speculate as to which minority will be the next legislated against. I’m thinking of taking my family and getting out of this country soon, sometime over the next couple of years. It’s cold and it’s mean-spirited and I don’t like it here anymore.
Goodnight England. Goodnight Home Services and V for Victory.
Hello the voice of Fate (London) and V For Vendetta.
~ Alan Moore — Northampton, March 1988
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
De aquellos polvos vienen estos lodos...
Y todavía la arpía ésa (no la puedo llamar señora, porque no lo era) tiene plaza con su nombre en Madrid (la única vez que menciona a Madrid en sus memorias fue para lamentarse de que la colección de arte del barón Thyssen se quedara aquí).
En fin, como decían en El Mago de Oz:
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"People believe my folderol because I wear a turban and a black tuxedo [...] We're in show biz! It's all about razzle-dazzle. Appearances. If you dress nice and talk well, people will swallow anything."
"Waving the flag with one hand and picking pockets with the other: that's your patriotism. Well, you can have it." Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious.
"Listen to them... Children of the night! What music they make..!"
Demencial lo de esta tipa y su gobierno , si. Y eso que se supone habían sido elegidos democráticamente. Pero Moore no exagera. Literalmente querían erradicar la homosexualidad, los ciudadanos estaban videovigilados, la policía era represora, había toque de queda (más o menos) y estaban considerando la idea de un campo de concentración para personas con sida. No es una hiperbole, o una exageración. Literalmente era así. ¡Y hace dos días de eso!. ¡En una democracia!. Recuerdo que mi madre nos comentaba las noticias que le llegaban de familiares trabajando allí... estaban muy asustados.
Claro, los jovenes de ahora leen V (que cogió eso y lo llevó al extremo en un futuro cercano distópico), y dicen. ah, es una distopía.... si, ya, ni idea tienen de lo CERCA que estuvo de llegarse a eso en la realidad. Y yo amo las islas británicas y he vivido mucho tiempo de mi vida en ellas pero eso es parte de su historia negra reciente, indudablemente. A su lado Trump es un angelito (, que es despreciable, pero de momento no ha llegado a esas cotas, démosle tiempo).
Perdón por el off-topic politico. Jane, tienes un privado.
Última edición por Branagh/Doyle; 06/02/2019 a las 22:43 Razón: Aclarar, no vaya a ser que se me malinterprete...
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Era poderosisimo en los 80 y lo sigue siendo ahora:
V for Vendetta # 6: Chapter 11: Valerie
“I was born in Nottingham in 1957, and it rained a lot. I passed my eleven plus and went to girl’s grammar. I wanted to be an actress. I met my first girlfriend at school. Her name was Sara. She was fourteen and I was fifteen but we were both in Miss Watson’s class. Her wrists. Her wrists were beautiful.
I sat in Biology class, staring at the pickled rabbit foetus in its jar, listening while Mr. Hird said it was an adolescent phase that people outgrew…
Sara did. I didn’t.
In 1976, I stopped pretending and took a girl called Christine home to meet my parents. A week later, I moved to London, enrolling at Drama college. My mother said I broke her heart… but it was my integrity that was important. Is that so selfish? It sells for so little, but it’s all we have left in this place. It is the very last inch of us… but within that inch, we are free.
London. I was happy in London. In 1981 I played Dandini in Cinderella. My first rep work. The world was strange and rustling and busy, with invisible crowds behind the hot lights and all that breathless glamour. It was exciting and it was lonely. At nights I’d go to Gateways or some of the other clubs, but I was stand-offish and didn’t mix easily. I saw a lot of the scene, but I never felt comfortable there. So many of them just wanted to be gay. It was their life, their ambition, all they talked about.
And I wanted more than that.
Work improved. I got small film roles, then bigger ones. In 1986, I starred in ‘The Salt Flats’. It pulled the awards but not the crowds. I met Ruth while working on that. We loved each other. We lived together, and on Valentine’s Day, she sent me roses, and oh god, we had so much. Those were the best three years of my life.
In 1988 there was the war, and after that there were no more roses. Not for anybody.
In 1992, after the take-over, they started rounding up the gays. They took Ruth while she was out looking for food. Why are they so frightened of us? They burned her with cigarette ends and made her give my name. She signed a statement saying I’d seduced her. I didn’t blame her. God, I loved her. I didn’t blame her. But she did. She killed herself in her cell. She couldn’t live with betraying me, with giving up that last inch. Oh Ruth.
They came for me. They told me that all my films would be burned. They shaved off my hair. They held my head down a toilet bowl and told jokes about lesbians. They brought me here and gave me drugs. I can’t feel my tongue anymore. I can’t speak.
The other gay woman here, Rita, died two weeks ago. I imagine I’ll die quite soon. It is strange that my life should end in such a terrible place, but for three years I had roses and apologized to nobody.
I shall die here. Every inch of me shall perish. Except one. An inch. It is small and it’s fragile and it’s the only thing in the world that’s worth having. We must never lose it, or sell it, or give it away. We must never let them take it from us. I don’t know who you are, or whether you’re a man or woman. I may never see you. I will never hug you or cry with you or get drunk with you. But I love you.
I hope you escape this place. I hope that the world turns and things get better, and that one day people have roses again. I wish I could kiss you.
Valerie”
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
¿Anda Molly Ringwald por ahí?
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Ferris Bueller's Day Off, o Todo en un día.
Que era una canción de los Smiths lo tenía más o menos claro, aunque no me venía cuál, cuando te has referido a John Hughes se me ha venido La chica de rosa, donde salía este Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want, pero no recordaba si aparecía esta versión instrumental, y lo del nombre en el título no cuadraba... Ni me acordaba del título original de Todo en un día. La canción también salía en 500 days of summer, donde el personaje de Lewitt era un admirador de The Smiths.
Pero veamos y escuchemos el tema en la persona y voz de Morrissey, con la imagen de James Dean detrás, su gran ídolo, sobre el que escribió una biografía, James Dean is not dead y el vídeo Suedehead. Mira, voy a poner los dos
Correctísimo, Akákievich.
Para mí un momento casi mágico ese que consigue John Hughes en su película.
Yo diría que esta escena, sobre todo con ese "diálogo" final de Cameron con la niña del cuadro (logrado a base de montaje) junto al film Único testigo, hicieron que me empezara a fijar en la importancia del montaje en esto de las películas.
Tu turno
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Pues díselo a los miembros de la Academia![]()
Bueno, con un poco de retraso, aquí va nuevo tema. Advierto que sobre el minuto 2:45 he pegado un buen bote, avisados estáis
https://clyp.it/v2vmmm4j
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"