Proyector | Panasonic PT-AE700

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juju

Y con un proyector de 13000 pilotes ni tecuento lo contento , orgulloso y exagerado que puedes llegar a ser de lo bien que se ve, de los negros tipo cojones de grillo y del megafabuloso contraste sin filtros mierda ni pollas. Por poner un ejemplo el nuevo SIM2 HT300E sin ir más lejos.
tio no te pases,que en estos foros no vamos tan sobrado de pasta<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=":D">
por eso se habla de projectores de 2000€ ma o menos y para mejorarlos si que hace falta usar htpc mas filtros,aqui nadie esta hablando de maquinas que se ven de fabula sin mas<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/juggle2.gif ALT=":malabares">



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polvos

¿Alguno habeis limpiado a conciencia el filtro del Pana?
Es q me ha dado ahora por hacerlo, y no tengo ni warra de como dejarlo impecable.

si te vale de algo mi z2 es un colaero de motas<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/cool.gif ALT=":8)">

uso un spray de aire comprimido,tanto en los paneles de adentro del cacharro que parecen pelotas de tenis o lo que tu comentas el filtro un chorro de aire y listo.

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Re: polvos

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Hola a todos, después de leer mucho me he decido en comprar el proyector panosonic PT-AE700 D . Pero necesito un empujoncito. <hr></blockquote>


píllatelo tranquilamente. no te arrepentirás.

lo de probarlo previamente... es una idea cojonuda... pero a veces no se puede...

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Re: polvos

Optical differences in coatings on the heliopan filter:

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Wavelength filtering diagram of the heliopan filter:

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Re: polvos

2 nuevas configs para e lfiltro Heliopan de mano de 2 foreros de distintos paises.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>
Here are my settings;
NORMAL MODE with Filter 81EF:
Contrast -4 ,
Brightness -4 ,
Sharpness -4 ,
Contrast Red +4 ,
Contrasr Green +5 ,
Contrast Blue +5 ,
Bright Red -4,
Bright Green -3 ,
Bright Blue -1
Gamma High 0 ,
Gamma Mid +3 ,
Gamma Low +3.<hr></blockquote>

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Je l'ai installé sur mon vidéoprojecteur. J'ai effectué mes réglages sur le mode VIDEO en effectuant les modifications suivantes :

Mode: VIDEO
Couleur : -3
Gamma bas : +1
Contraste R : -6
Contraste V : -2
Contraste B : +3
Couleur R : -6
Couleur V : -3
Couleur B : -1<hr></blockquote>

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Re: polvos

Por más que lo intento las imágenes me tiran siempre como a marrón, no me acaba de justar el color que me da...

Tu como lo tienes configurado, Gn0m4?

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Mode: Video
Contrast: +4
Brightness: +3
Colourr: -2
Temp.Color: 0
Contrast.R: -2
Contrast.V: -2

El resto de valores a 0 o default

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CALIBRAR en modo economico

Hola amigos, que tal, yo ya tengo el filtro Heliopan de Team Foto el de Gn0m4, y ahora pregunto, alguien a probado a calibrarlo en modo economico y con que parametros os gusta más (me gusta el modo economico por el silencio y por que me dure mas la lampara ya que lo utilizo hasta para ver el telediario, bueno esto ultimo lo veo en la tele de 21" pero como lo utilizo de monitor para el HTPC, visito internet y todo con el proye.) vale ya se que cuando pusiera una pelicula podria poner el modo normal y luego volver al economico pero...

A ver, me gustaria saber que modo utilizais (sobretodo para Gn0m4, que visto las peazo fotos que ha posteado en este foro, yo quiero eso en mi casa, y tengo el pana700 el filtro Heliopan y un HTPC, así que no deberia ser muy dificil de conseguir) solo fallo en un detalle el tiene una DaLite High Contrast y yo una Wallmaster (de las de TodoSonyc).

Otra en el Zoom Player a parte de todos los filtros, el DSCaler 5.0.6 etc..., que utilizais (VMR 9 o el overlay) con el VMR 9 la imagen es más suave, con el overlay (o mezclador de superposición) la imagen no tiene artefactos, y va superfina con todos los filtros que quieras meter, aunque creo que esta demasiado contrastada y oscura) que utilizais y despues que configuración teneis en el Ffdshow en cuanto a gestion de color (pictures properties, levels y overlay)

Yo tengo un pequeño defecto para poder calibrarlas perfectamente, ya que me gustan las imagenes con mucho punch (contrastadas) vamos efecto trinitron (justamente son las pantallas que me gustan en CRT). asi que siempre tiendo a perder algun matiz en los oscuros o en los blancos.

Actualmente el modo que uso:

Lampara: Economico

Modo: Dinamico
Contraste: –3
Brillo: +4
Color: –2
Temp Color: 0
el resto: 0

En Advanced:
Contraste A: –2
Contraste V: –2

Y en Zoom Player:

Actualmente Modo Overlay, siempre he utilizado el VMR9, pero me ha gustado la suavidad con que lo mueve a 1280 x 720 con todos los filtros activados y con el VMR9 a 720p me da tironcillos cuando habro un menu o bajo a la barra de progreso y me salen artefactos y en el color rojo (no se como se llama el efecto, creo que tearing o algo asi) salen rayas horizontales.

En ffdshow no tengo configurada ni picture properties ni overlay en levels tengo el out en 254.

Con algunas peliculas se ve espectacular con un color, contraste y viveza impresionantes y con otras se ve muy oscuro o es mi sensación (Sky Captain se me ve muy oscura) y quiza el efecto que me provoca la imagen con esta configuración es la del citado Trinitron.

Mi HTPC:

Asus P4C800
Fuente Antec True Blue 480W
Pentium 4 3.2Ghz (Con Zalman 7000 de cobre)
Corsair XMS 2x512 DDR 400(1Gb)
Ati Radeon X800 XT 256Mb DDR3 (Gigabyte)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
2 discos SATA 120Gb Seagate (240 Gb)
DVD+RW DL Sony DRU700
DVD Toshiba

Bueno sin más dilación: Gracias y un saludo.



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Config. Filtro B+W

Iba a postear unas fotos con el filtro de B+W y la configuración en modo Video que posteé hace ayer y resulta que hay que tenerlas alojadas en un servidor.

En fin. Comento mis primeras impresiones, así a ojo.

La diferencia es pequeña. ¿Por qué?. Porque ya de por sí la imagen que obtenía con el Pana, sin ninguna calibración, en modo normal, salida por componentes desde un Pioneer 575A en progresivo era ... alucinante.


Aprecio negros algo más profundos. Aunque antes estaba no tenía queja con los negros que obtenía.
Lo que sí he notado es un viraje al azul y al verde. <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/thinking.gif ALT=":pensando"> Esa es la sensación que me ha dado en algunas escenas que he pasado de Gladiator (viraban al azul) y Matrix Reloaded.

En resumen, se mejora el contraste al mantenerse las luces y conseguir negros más profundos. Pero creo que a cambio se sacrifica la colorimetría en algunos tonos (esa es la sensación que me ha dado y que es totalmente subjetiva).
Empezaré a probar otras configuraciones porque esta no me ha convencido.

Saludos.

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Menú servicio

¿podéis decirme cómo acceder al menú de servicio del pana?
Gracias
(Me he remirado casi todo el hilo y nada y me suena que Gn0m4 posteó algo al respecto)


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Fotos con filtro B&W

Pues ya he subido las fotos a un servidor ...

Están hechas con una Canon A60 (3,2Mp) en modo auto. Sobre una imagen proyectada de unos 2,20 m de ancho en 16:9. O sea, unas 120". Y a algo más de 3,5 metros de la pantalla. El proyector estaría a unos 4 metros.

La salida es desde un pioneer 575 por componentes en progresivo.

La calibración del Pana700:
Modo: Video
Lamp: Low
Contraste Verde: +5
Contraste Azul: +4
Brillo Rojo: -2
Brillo Verde: -2
Brillo Azul: -1

(La diferencia entre la lámpara Low y High era mínima. Así que opté por Low).

En las escenas de matrix dentro de la disco es donde más noté un exceso de verde (aunque de por sí esas escenas y la peli en general tiene ese tono, pero está muy acusado).

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En fin, que esto es una locura. Que yo lo veo cojonudamente. Con filtro o sin filtro. Con una calibración o con otra.

Tened en cuenta que la salida es por componentes y que las fotos están tiradas a 3,5 metros por eso se ven con poco detalle. Y sobre todo, que las fotos no hacen justicia a la realidad.

Saludos,

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Alguno de vosotros a conseguido poner , utilizando HTPC,frecuencia de pantalla 72 hz para ver las peliculas a 24 fotogramas por segundo utilizando reclock .

Gracias.


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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Pues sí las fotos no habían salido muy allá. Sobre todo por el tamaño.<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/sad3.gif ALT=":(((">
Pero ahora creo que se ha jodido del todo. He tenido que cambiarlas de servidor y adios. Sólo sale un thumb.<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/furious.gif ALT=":>:">

Que el artista para esto es Gn0m4
<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/juggle2.gif ALT=":malabares">

Saludos

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Hola de nuevo!!

He andado de viajes y un poquito desconectado del foro pr motivos personales. Os pido disculpasa a todos los q me habeis mandado ez y no os he contestado con "rapidez" q digamos.
Veamos q se cuece aqui..

Superria,
¿Cual era el filtro del q disponias?, si es el B+W acercate a AVSForum porque parece q estan posteando configs interesantes.
Las q puse yo logicamente t van a tender al verde como bien dices, porque estan hechas para el filtro Heliopan.

Para acceder al menu de servicio, solo tienes q ir a opciones del menu del proyector, ponerte encima de la primera opcion y pulsar enter + la flecha de abajo.

Sobre las fotos t aconsejaria q las reescalases o bien desde phtshp o bien con el comando del foro q lo hace por ti (no lo recuerdo, pero en el megapost de las salas, WRC lo comentó varias veces).

JosebaAG,
<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Alguno de vosotros a conseguido poner , utilizando HTPC,frecuencia de pantalla 72 hz para ver las peliculas a 24 fotogramas por segundo utilizando reclock .<hr></blockquote>

¿T puedes explicar mejor?, no acabo de entender porque quieres poner la frecuencia a 72Hz. Lo q deberias de hacer es colocarla a 50Hz.



Un saludo <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/hola.gif ALT=":hola">

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Gracias por contestar Gn0m4, a ver si ahora me esplico mejor.

Ahora tengo el proyercto conectado por HDMI a 50 Hz como dices y me funciona perfectamente, pero me gustaria poder ver las peliculas a 24 fotogramas por segundo como en el cine.
Para esto necesito , reclock, grafica a 1280 x 720 @ 72 y que el proyector me tarbaje tambien a esa resolucion 1280x720 @72.
El echo de que ponga una resolucion de 72 Hz es que es multiplo de 24 necesario para que reclock realice su proposito.
Creo que es posible porque algun forero lo comento hace tiempo pero no recuerdo ni quien ni en que hilo.

Saludos.

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Gracias Gn0m4.

Sobre las fotos preferí no retocarlas con el photoshop para que se vieran tal cual. Pero al final fue un desastre.
Intentaré sacar otras a menor tamaño.

Saludos


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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>El echo de que ponga una resolucion de 72 Hz es que es multiplo de 24 necesario para que reclock realice su proposito.<hr></blockquote>
Prueba con 48Hz. Yo con mi Z2 lo hago así, pero solo con las películas NTSC, ya que ver las PAL a 24fps me supone estropear el audio. Eso sin contar que normalmente las PAL YA llevan corrección tonal...

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

El problema es que el proyector aparentemente no me permite poner a 72 Hz ni a 48 Hz asi que tendre que seguir a 50 Hz.

Saludos.


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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Para poner esas frecuencias t hace falta o powerstrip sobre ATI, o una tarjeta Nvidia.

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

y se nota pasar de 60hz a 48? en qué?<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/interrogacion.gif ALT=":?">

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Distintas opiniones sobre el tunning del Pana <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/love.gif ALT=":amor">


<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I can't believe it!! Everyone reporting that all the online stores are all out. I thought we are only few that buying the filter (are we?).
This is the best $80 I ever spend; it really put AE700 into a different category.

btw I don't think it would be that big of different between the MRC and none MRC filter, if I did my homework I would of get the none MRCs, because it costs less and I don't need the scratch resistant feature that MRC offers, I using it for the projector, how am I gonna scratch the lens? Anyway, I think none MRC just as good as the MRC for projector use.

Off the record, this just to talking $#!^ ----- I am a very proud owner of AE700, with filter, the black look just as good as most of DLP projectors, and compares it to HS51 and Z3, NO SCREENDOORS... HA HA HA I'm really enjoy my AE700. What about you??

Baja<hr></blockquote>

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Baja, I totally agree. Getting the filter was the best $45 I spent on the projector. As you said. "It really put the AE700 into a different category."

I tried a few films I was unhappy with with my previous projector the SanyoZ2 "Lost in Translation & Spiderman. They were better on the AE700 but not great before putting on the filter. With the filter the difference in the blacks and contrast has to be seen to be believed. I know many of you are waiting for your filter. Hope it comes in soon and some of you have time to do additional tweaks.

Now that many of you have the filter I would like to suggest one low cost tweak that will have nearly as much impact. Get yourself some felt black cloth at a local fabric store and make a DIY masking system. Masking the picture really adds impact and with the use of the filter you will get a better picture than nearly any movie theatre. I did a quick DIY job with the help
of a friend but I think the people on the fourm could come up with a great
low cost masking system. The most difficult part was to make a changing
system for different aspect ratios of films.

The total cost of the masking project will probably be no more than the filter. You do not need fancy velvet cloth. Inexpensive black felt will do. I have even masked the entire front of the room around the screen.
I will try to take some pictures and post when I get a chance.

On another note: Thanks to everyone for all their help with the filter and
posting their settings. Your work has made a great projector even better.<hr></blockquote>


<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/palomitas.gif ALT=":palomitas">

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Y mas noticias se suceden en los foros extranjeros, al parecer nuestro proyector ha sido y sigue siendo un Boom !

De la mano del forero q nos paso las mediciones de Smart III con el filtro, nos llegan nuevas noticias interesantes:

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Congrats to everyone who got the B+W or Heliopan filters and are enjoying the results. All forumites love finding something that improves their toys especially when the cost is pretty low.

Now I know it's been a while since I posted on the tweak thread about using various free filters from Lee and Roscolux but it's been quite a wait for me too. First, I was waiting for my PJ to return from the fw update, then I had to wait for my Smart III package because it was backordered, then after receiving it, I got word that ver 2.0 was finally ready and I waited for the email to download that. After receiving that, I tried registering the meter that comes with the package to receive the default values and found out that I had to wait a little longer because Steve Smallcombe had made a few adjustments to the relationship calcs for the measurements.

Well, after all that, I finally got it working and tried it out last night. First off, Gotta say that anyone who might be thinking about getting Smart III should definitely do it. One of the big differences between Smart III and Colorfacts or the OpticOne system is ease-of-use. The other 2 being made for pro use are a lot simpler and faster, but the Smart system gives pretty good results too. If you have $2000-$3000 in your pocket, Colorfacts or OpticOne would be great but for just under $300, Smart is a bargain. The biggest things to consider about buying one of these systems is that
a) As some people have found and others have mentioned time and again, there can be sufficient variation PJ to PJ for one user's D65 settings to not work for another.
b) Although you might calibrate to D65 now, as the UHP bulb ages, the color spectra tends to shift so after an additional few hundred hours, you have to recalibrate to achieve D65 again. When you change the bulb, you'll have to recalibrate again because some people after testing several new bulbs found variances even between new bulbs.

A minimum of 3 calibrations necessary would make the Colorfacts rental cost $900, where with Smart III, you can keep using the system to recalibrate (or to calibrate your new upgrade projector some time down the road)

That being said, the real reason I wrote this post is to give some of the filter tweakers an option. The last time I used Colorfacts, I managed to get a 2000:1 CR using a free filter from Lee. (Pale Gold with Video mode). I now have the entire range of free filters from Lee, Roscolux and GamColor and will use Smart III ver2.0 to try to see if there is a free filter that can match or possibly exceed the results obtained by BradBissell who also used Smart to calibrate with.

Since the absolute black floor is limited by the PJ from its light leakage, the only real way to increase the CR is to start with the brightest modes. Granted, all the modes in default settings still have room to lower the black floor by reducing the RGB Bias settings, but once you do that, the only way to increase CR is to maximize the brightness of the higher IRE's.

Last night I tried some trial measurements of Video, Normal and Dynamic modes and they all have their quirks. Dynamic is by far the brightest to start with and I tried measuring that mode after maxing the RGB contrast and minimizing the RGB bias. I also tried something that I unfortunately neglected to try the last time I had Colorfacts available and that was to measure the different color temp settings available. In another thread where another user used Colorfacts to check the AE700, they found that the color temp settings not only seriously affected the RGB output but could actually flip the primaries that were overblown. I had simply assumed that the color temp settings only increased/decreased R and B at a fairly standard rate but after measuring the different color temps, that turns out to NOT be the case!

For measuring and calibrating a PJ, Smart III is great, but for serious filter tweaking, its one downside begins to show. Smart III takes a lot more time for a measurement run. Having to measure not only the different modes but different color temp settings of each mode starts to get really tedious. The 7 hours I spent last night only got me complete IRE measurements for the Video mode that I had already tweaked, the Normal mode with Color temp 0 and Dynamic with color temp 0.

I then tried to see if I could maybe use a shortcut by measuring only the 0 and 100 IRE windows at all the color temp settings for Video, Normal and Dynamic with all the RGB settings maxed at opposite ends and used that to calculate the required attenuation by the filter, seeing how I was looking to minimize 0IRE and maximize 100IRE. I then went through the SED (Spectral Emission Distribution) graphs of all the filters I had on hand that could properly attenuate the differences I had measured between RGB in the 3 modes at 0 and 100 IRE at all the available color temp settings. I also had to calulate the percentage differences between RGB for all the different settings in all the modes at both 0 and 100IRE to find the mode and setting that had what looked like the most standard deviation to use the filters with. I found 4 that looked pretty good for Dynamic at color temp -2. After measuring all the filters at 0 and 100 IRE on Dynamic -2 one filter hit it perfectly! Matching all the attenuations with the RGB contrast maxed and Biases minimized. I was ecstatic and finally, in the wee hours of the morning I made a full measurement run with the filter and there found that my search wasn't over.

As it turned out from what I and others had previously found, the gamma on Dynamic is a little weird, and the color temp -2 does some weird things to the RGB output. The filter I had picked perfectly attenuated the pciture from 0-20IRE and 80-100IRE black was black and white was pure white, but everything in between was completely pink. I had made the assumption (after being tired of making individual measurements) that the UHP lamp's red deficiencies should be pretty even between 0 and 100 IRE when the primaries were maxed out. In retrospect, I forgot that the graphs always tended to show a predominance of blue and shortage of red at 0-20 IRE and at 80-100IRE, meaning the red levels tend to be higher and comparably not deficient between 20 and 80 IRE so it's back to the drawing board.

Unfortunately, I won't have the chance to measure and tweak anymore over this weekend, but I've set Monday night aside to do more serious measuring and tweaking. From the outlook of it, as I said before, after examining the SED for the KR6 81EF filters vs the color charts for the AE700, I am positive that there are superior filters for attentuating the maxed primaries and with all the filters I have with their SEDs, I intend to find one.

So tweakaholics, stay tuned! <hr></blockquote>




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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Y mas noticias interesantes <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/birra.gif ALT=":birra">

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Anamorphic Lenses Don't Just Give You widescreen For Free...

In the case of the AE-700 you go into ZOOM1 mode (that's the PAL name... it may have a different name with NTSC video, maybe just "ZOOM&quot<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> . Whatever, this is the mode that zooms only vertically. It keeps the width of the projected image unchanged. So what you end up with is a 2.35:1 (Cinemascope) picture filling the whole 16:9 AE-700 screen i.e. using all the pixels. Of course, due to the differences in the aspect ratios between 2.35:1 (actually 64:27) and 16:9 everyone looks tall and skinny, circles are egg-shaped etc... the geometry's wrong.

What the anamorphic lens does is widen the 16:9 picture by 1.33:1, making it 64:27 (called "2.35:1&quot<img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> while maintaining the height and restoring correct geometry. Circles are circles again, faces look normal... except that the screen is now full frame Cinemascope... no black bars top and borrom of the screen to distract you AND it uses ALL the pixels of the AE-700 to do so.

Using an anamorphic lens means you don't have to zoom your picture to a large size, just to get the right width for a Cinemascope movie. You only have to set it to the correct HEIGHT. The lens then widens it out to Cinemascope ratio. This means that if you swing the anamorphic lens out of the way you have normal 16:9 pictures again, without needing to re-adjust your zoom factor to reset the height for the different aspect ratio.

Having to zoom your AE-700 projection lens less means a brighter picture to start with, and since you're only widening this smaller picture by one-third and in one direction you only lose 25% of that extra light (not 33% as some believe).

Smaller height also means that pixels are closer together, so your Cinemascope aspect image pixel-to-pixel is finer in detail vertically compared to the "traditional" technique of enlarging the whole picture and just watching the image between the black bars. You're using ALL the 720 vertical pixels to fill your screen vertically, not 3/4 of them. Horizontal pixel resolution is the same either way, so there's a nett significant gain in smoothness of image (this time it IS 33%).

Anamorphic lenses have been around for a while (since at least the 1920s). But they were first used in a big way when Cinemascope movies were introduced in the early 1950s. Cinemas all over the place had standard 4:3 aspect ratio projectors. By shooting the movie with an anamorphic (to squeeze the wide field of view in a 4:3 frame of film) and then projecting it with a "reverse" anamorphic lens (to widen the film out again), cinemas only needed to make modest adjustments to their equipment to accommodate the new format.

This is how most widescreen films are projected today. There were a few spherical lens widescreen techniques (Cinerama and Vistavision were two notable ones), but the cost of extra-wide film stock meant that the use of anamorphic lenses (using standard film stock) was the most economical.

There are two methods used to widen pictures anamorphically: one uses two counter-rotating prisms and the other uses cylindrical lenses. The prism technique was the original Panavision product, way back in 1952. It is also used in Prismasonic and Panamorph lenses for HT today. But these are incredibly bulky and heavy compared to a small form-factor cylindrical lens attachment. They also get in the way of IR remote signals to the projector and/or DVD player due to the bulk. And they have distortion when used in wide cone, short throw situations. The lens I have is cylindrical and has none of these problems. It weighs only four or five ounces and is 70mm wide by 80mm long (about 3 x 3.5 inches). There are other cylindrical lenses available for HT use, but the last I saw these can cost over $3,000 US. The one I purchased new was under $500, and as far as I can see, the pictures are superb.

As I reckon 16:9 will be the standard for HT projectors for the forseeable future, an anamorphic lens will always come in handy, as I upgrade to higher definition projectors in the future. Cinemascope aspect will never fit into 16:9 aspect ratio screens. So the adapter is Future Proof as well.

A word on masking: if you stand outside the image area and can see bright light coming from the projector lens then this is, by definition, stray light. If you hold your hand near the screen you can see a sharp shadow from these stray rays. These stray rays must decrease contrast, as they also fall within the screen area, lightening blacks. Sticking some black electrical tape on the face of the flat output element of my anamorphic lens eliminates most of this non-image stray light coming from the projection lens at the source, so I get the benefit of "masking" as well. Just about the only light that goes into the room is the actual image. This alone increases contrast by an appreciable amount, so much so that I've stopped using the Lee filter I was using. The picture is that good now that I am using all the pixels of the LCD panel and am masking any strays at the projector end. Most of my films are now projected in NORMAL mode in the projector and STANDARD at the DVD. I always have higher DVD outputs and VIDEO and DYNAMIC for particularly dull, low contrast movies. It's really the best of both worlds.

A random discovery:

A curious thing happened when I was setting up my new lens. Anamorphic adapters (cylindrical or prismatic) need to be aligned accurately with the projection lens (the center pixel of the image needs to pass through the center of both elements in the adapter), so I used SERVICE MODE to aid in doing this. While checking out focus and linearity with the SERVICE MODE cross-hatch pattern, I accidentally hit the COLOR MANAGEMENT button. To my surprise I got BOTH cross-hatch AND picture on screen at the same time. Quite useful, as now I could see both a geometrical AND a real DVD image together to get my alignment perfect.

To get out of this funny mode, just go through the SERVICE MODE routine again and turn it off with the MENU button.

I have v1.3 s/w. I hope they haven't fixed this very useful "bug" in later versions.<hr></blockquote>

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Re: Fotos con filtro B&W

Voy a parar un poco porque sino no vamos a tener tiempo de analizar toda la información de nuestro querido Pana <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/love.gif ALT=":amor">
Me quedan mas cosas en el tintero, pero eso es pan para otro dia.
El debate queda abierto, opinones por favor <img src=https://www.mundodvd.com/forum/emoticons/happy2.gif ALT=":DD">

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