Luego vienen los que dicen que no tiene temas.
En 3... 2... 1...
Luego vienen los que dicen que no tiene temas.
En 3... 2... 1...
De FSM, sobre A Haunting in Venice.
Branagh didn't want to try something different musically for a comic book movie (Thor), a huge studio spy movie (Jack Ryan) or his Disney movies (Cinderella and Artemis Fowl). I'm even willing to bet, knowing the film industry, that he had to fight for Doyle to score at least one or two of those. I find it almost inconceivable that he'd have the sudden desire for a new sound on the third installment in a successful franchise that Doyle has already established a style for.
The only films he's done without Doyle over their nearly forty years working together have had little or no original score (Peter's Friends, In the Bleak Midwinter, The Magic Flute, Belfast). The only film he's ever done with any true score not by Doyle is Midwinter, and that has just a solo guitar score, consisting mostly of variations of the titular hymn, and was (I believe) recorded while Doyle was busy doing Sense and Sensibility for Emma Thompson.
There's a story here. Maybe we'll learn it someday, maybe we won't.
I just hope the story is nothing dramatic, and that they reunite on whatever Branagh's next film is (he has nothing announced as director, just a movie he's acting in with Ryan Reynolds).
They're up there with Williams/Spielberg among my favorite composer/director collaborations, their work together has given us some truly towering masterpieces. I sincerely hope they work together for many more years
Mmm...
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Hombre, Thor no era probar algo diferente, Feige tiene mucha culpa de como suena, no entra en la categoría de 'probar algo diferente'
Ademas, el comentario tiene mucho mas de elemento personal que hechos basados
PD: creo que te he reconocido en FSM, B/D![]()
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
La electrónica de Wallfisch, claramente inspirada en el EDM, tiene una complejidad y planteamiento dentro de la estructura de la partitura de forma similar a Mortal Kombat o Hellboy (ojo, la partitura completa tiene mucho de orquesta hibrida con electrónica), que el propio Wallfisch tiene mucho que ver en ella.
A mi que me digan que Black Adam es mejor o mas memorable...![]()
Hombre, yo entiendo que el tema principal de Black Adam se le quede a la gente en la cabeza con más facilidad. Lo entiendo perfectamente.
El problema es que no hay mucho más que eso. El tema se repite y se repite sin apenas variar. Y la música de acción es... mala.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
A ver, si eso es cierto, el tema de Black Adam y la Sociedad de la Justicia son memorables, claro, es indudable.
El problema es que cuando han salido obras como Man of Steel, BvS o Mortal Kombat, obras cuya electronica es mas compleja, no es chunta chunta como lo es Black Adam (por decir mas sencillo, es mas accesible, menos atonal digase), se hace un hincapie en esa idea de cara que cualquier partitura que no siga esa accesibilidad, se convierte en un problema dentro de la analitica, que es mas una cuestion personal y de gusto que de objetividad.
El caso de Mortal Kombat, que cito constantemente (sorry, si soy pesado :p), es un caso de que no es simplementente chunta chunta, hay una capacidad de elaboracion electronica, lejos de la pirotecnia barata (de forma similar a como Wallfisch la usa en obras como It o El Hombre Invisible), con elementos motivicos para sus personajes e incluso tematicos (la deconstruccion del tema de Techno Syndrome usando partes del mitico riff, e incluso a modo de acomapañimiento en algunas partes, es impercitible, pero es inteligente), lo alejan de un score simplista como quieren vender muchos.
Y desde luego, la escritura orquestal de Mortal Kombat es tan equiparable como lo fue Shazam, ojito, que tiene partes de infarto que en un blockbuster no se suelen ver, eh. Y con The Flash pasa lo mismo, hay una escritura orquestal brutal, lejos de otras obras recientes del genero (que salgan aquellos que decian que Beck iba a superar a Wallfisch con la secuela de Shazam), superior incluso, ademas de su manejo de la electronica, no es cosa de productores, es un elemento mas elaborado de lo que muchos querran ver, pero... ya sabemos como va esto.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
PrimeCallahan, amigo mío the plot thickens .
Los compañeros alemanes del foro soundtrack.de han preguntado al equipo de Doyle en Facebook (asistentes y demás), por la razón de que Doyle no haya hecho la partitura de A Haunting in Venice, y estos han dicho que la coronación le tuvo muy ocupado, con cambios hasta el último minuto, y que no le dio tiempo a hacer la música de la película.
¿A quién creemos?. ¿Al tipo de FSM que dice que escuchó a Doyle decir en un concierto en Cracovia que estaba disponible y fue cosa de Branagh, o a los asistentes del compositor?.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
La persona que afirmo eso, tiene cierta enquina a compositores 'modernos' (salvo Tyler)
Y esto viene de la gente que esta entre los asistentes del compositor, tengo mas fe en lo ultimo y claramente la coronacion (mi principal idea desde el principio, porque dudo que Branagh tire por la borda a Doyle).
Ademas, la pelicula por aquel entonces estaba con los toques finales (inclusive algun test-screening, tengo entendido)
Última edición por PrimeCallahan; 19/06/2023 a las 16:32
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Michael Giacchino confirmado para lo nuevo de Bayona, La sociedad de la nieve.
Desde hace años llevo una doble vida. De dia trabajo pero despues mi
corazon y mi adrenalina se disparan. Al verme jamas pensarias que puedo
moverme a velocidades increibles. Correr mas rapido. Saltar mas alto. Llegar
mas lejos... Y, aunque he sobrepasado los limites, yo si puedo decir que
he vivido.
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Que Shakespiriano está resultando todo esto. Las oscuras maquinaciones del aparentemente afable monarca.![]()
"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
Q: "I'm your new quartermaster"
007: "You must be joking"
_______________________
CLAUDIO: "Lady, as you are mine, I am yours"
_______________________
EISENSTEIN: "I'm a boxer for the freedom of the cinematic expression" -"I'm a scientific dilettante with encyclopedic interests"
Más música de D&D en camino.
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"There’s this misconception these days that a thematic score means a dated-sounding score. This, of course, is a cop out. There’s no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The art of composing modern scores is the having the skill set to keep motifs alive while being relevant. But too many times, newer composers have no idea what fully developed themes are because they grew up on scores that are nothing more than ostinatos and “buahs.”
John Ottman.
El Flash de Benjamin Wallfisch me ha sorprendido para bien. Sigue teniendo un sonido industrial, pero está muy bien. Me gusta.
Y que haya un nuevo disco con mas musica ''inspirada'' por D&D me parece genial, el OST de la peli de Balfe me gustó; pero mas cuando se inspiraba en música celtica con ciertos tonos y letimotivs; si las inspiraciones de este nuevo album son esas, me encantará. Le echaré una oida.
Sobre el album de D&D, aquí se pueden escuchar muestras, y como preveía es justo lo que quería; musica con inspiraciones celtas. Basicamente es el tipo de musica que escucharías en una taverna en D&D. Es perfecta para que suene de fondo en partidas. Me va a gustar. ¿Sabéis si estará en Spotify a las 00:00 de la noche?
https://music.apple.com/nz/album/boo...ons/1692982626